Best way to put wood on pallets ?

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Ashful

Minister of Fire
Mar 7, 2012
15,715
Philadelphia
Thanks, guys. Trouble with three rows on 40" pallets, with any sort of overhang, is my method of using knee braces when attaching my book-ends. Already an issue with two rows of 20" on a 40" wide pallet, but I can always find enough shorties to fit between the knee braces.

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Woody Stover

Minister of Fire
Dec 25, 2010
12,223
Southern IN
using knee braces when attaching my book-ends.
How about running just one row N-S in the center, and fill the remaining area E-W, in the brace area?
 

jeffesonm

Minister of Fire
May 29, 2012
862
central NJ
I cut 16" and stack two rows across the 40" side of the pallet, touching in the middle. Less airflow I but more stable and there's still at least one end of both rows open to the air. I am 3+ years ahead so no rush to dry. Top covered with lumber tarps stapled to splits every few feet and the pallet bookends. Only cost in materials is the lag screws for the bookends.



 

Joe13

Member
Oct 8, 2014
65
York, ME
I stack a bit unconventional, but it seems to work for me. I basically alternate directions each row, with a center filled with uglies. Very stable and great air flow, but takes more space obviously.











Lucky for me, I have plenty of space to stack and spread the wood out.
 

maple1

Minister of Fire
Sep 15, 2011
10,765
Nova Scotia
First thing I do is put the empty pallet down, on top of some splits. Getting the pallet off the ground first works wonders - more air flow underneath & the pallets last, the higher the better. Doesn't have to be splits - cinder blocks work too if you have some. But splits are handy & you can still burn them the next year. I've got some plastic pallets I use for that too if you can find some. Also makes getting under it with the FEL a lot easier - if lucky enough to have a FEL.

I hate dealing with the remnants of pallets rotting into the ground...
 

jaoneill

Feeling the Heat
May be a bit off topic but my plan for the future is to palletize splits right off the splitter, onto a wagon for transport from the woodlot, into the woodshed when it's ready, all with a FEL. Will save handling every stick three/four times. Here is my first effort before moving down to the woodlot; splits from a box elder close to the barn that we bulldozed a year or two ago (shoulder wood). Probably will need another strap or two but had to be somewhere else about the time I finished. 3x3x4 - small and light enough to handle easily, most of my pallets are 4X4 so ten pallets should give me about three cord, 30 pallets per heating season. IMG_0047.JPG
 

Rossco

Minister of Fire
Aug 13, 2014
735
BC
Jao : I like that concept.

Problem here is you need a good lid as it snows like mad.

Here's my pallet derived storage and dryin racks.



You will notice we can leave the splits rather large as the wood will be bone dry after a year regardless.
 

Poindexter

Minister of Fire
Jun 28, 2014
2,329
Fairbanks, Alaska
I have cinder blocks under mine and covered on top with plastic. I find 6' vertical of green wood is about the limit for pallets with cutouts for forklift forks, I can rarely get two drying seasons out of those, in fact I don't have any on their third season.

16" splits, leaned into each other.

If I had a fork lift, or a big concrete pad and a pallet jack - next house I tell ya - this wouldn't be the best way. On limited acreage with no forklift, this is the best I can do with respect to not taking up the whole lawn with more pallets.

I have read many times that a third layer of wood in between the two outside layers, the third layer doesn't dry so good. Haven't tried it, don't know, but it reads a lot like trying to get red oak dry enough to burn in one summer, just doesn't happen.

FWIW I finished splitting in February, looking for 16%MC or less by late August. Not worried, solstice is still a month away and i have been getting really good wind this spring.
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Woody Stover

Minister of Fire
Dec 25, 2010
12,223
Southern IN
I find 6' vertical of green wood is about the limit for pallets with cutouts for forklift forks....read many times that a third layer of wood in between the two outside layers, the third layer doesn't dry so good.
That's why I went to centering the blocks under the cutouts, to distribute the weight better. You use more blocks though. We've got a 3-wide pallet row going at my BIL's house. It will have 2 summers before he needs it. Fresh Hackberry in the center row, dead Red Elm on the outside rows on the first two pallets, then some dead, but fairly wet, White Ash 3 wide on the next two pallets. Never went 3 wide before, but I think it should be OK. Will top-cover.
 

maple1

Minister of Fire
Sep 15, 2011
10,765
Nova Scotia
I find 6' vertical of green wood is about the limit for pallets with cutouts for forklift forks, I can rarely get two drying seasons out of those, in fact I don't have any on their third season.

I support the middle also. Couple more splits for each pallet is all that takes. Or cinder blocks in your case. I don't go that high though - I move my pallets around with a FEL (from yard, to basement door pad & pallet jack) so they can get pretty tippy above 4' or so.
 

Ashful

Minister of Fire
Mar 7, 2012
15,715
Philadelphia
I'm stacking over 6' high on pallets. They're sitting right on the lawn, with bricks, flagstones, or thin pavers under the low side (sloppy area). They last me at least 3 years, and I do support the middle of the elevated rail, like maple1. They sag in the middle, between rows, but that's never caused my stacks to topple.
 

BigCountryNY

Burning Hunk
Sep 16, 2014
233
Putnam Valley, NY
How many racks like this do u need for 1 cord of wood?
It depends on how long you make the racks. If you use 8' beams across the bottom and stack them at least 4' high off your beam, then you have 1 face cord (1/3 of a cord). This is assuming your splits are 16" wide. So in that case, you would need 3 rows to make a cord. Depending on room you could also make them 10', 12', or 16' long too.
 

BigCountryNY

Burning Hunk
Sep 16, 2014
233
Putnam Valley, NY
I was fortunate since the previous owners of my house had put in a 40' x 15' concrete pad to use for boat or RV storage. My wood sits awfully nice on pallets down there. It's all stacked and top-covered now with 6 mil black plastic.

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billb3

Minister of Fire
Dec 14, 2007
4,676
SE Mass
I love that! How stable are those cinder blocks with the uprights?
As stable as the ground the blocks are placed on.

If the ground under the block compresses unevenly the stack can eventually fall over.

If a upright 2x4 has a crack and they are leaning way over from being loose in the block hole they can crack and break and spill the beans. Or not enough blocks for support on horizontals for the weight and span. Minor construction errors reveal failure rates soon enough.
 

nola mike

Minister of Fire
Sep 13, 2010
840
Richmond/Montross, Virginia
Minor construction errors reveal failure rates soon enough.
Hah. Well, that's always the concern, right? I wonder if a couple of hurricane ties or something to secure the uprights to the crossmembers would help. Looks like it would be a good idea to wedge something in the block holes to take up space. Or use 1 more block per side and face them in the opposite direction.
 

BlueRidgeMark

Feeling the Heat
Oct 8, 2015
262
Virginia
I got some 8 foot pallets, so I use the 3 standard pallets on the ground (tied together with spare slats), up on cinder blocks, and use the 8 footers as bookends with braces. I cut my wood generally 16-18", and stack two rows along the outside edge about 6 foot high, and toss the uglies in the middle. I have had no problem at all with the wood drying that way.

I also ran a 10' toobiffer (2x4) up the center of each bookend, and used that to support a 16' toobahsix between them to act as a support beam for my heavy duty tarp. It's 16x12, and so hangs down on each side of the beam about 6 feet, covering the wood, and a bit over on each end. I secure it with bungie rope. Not individual cords; I buy it in bulk and keep it long. I have screw eyes here and there as needed on the pallets to secure the bungie. This way I can easily push it aside to get wood, but it stays secure even in high winds. This has been working well for me for a couple of years.
 

Babaganoosh

Minister of Fire
Nov 18, 2014
713
NJ
Here are two 16 footers. I get the landscape timbers when they go on sale. 2x4s are free, and I buy the block. They actually look very nice so if anyone has to please a wife with their wood stacking this might do it. It looks a lot better than pallets.

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Woody harrelson

Feeling the Heat
Aug 21, 2015
263
NJ
It depends on how long you make the racks. If you use 8' beams across the bottom and stack them at least 4' high off your beam, then you have 1 face cord (1/3 of a cord). This is assuming your splits are 16" wide. So in that case, you would need 3 rows to make a cord. Depending on room you could also make them 10', 12', or 16' long too.
Make them 24' so each row is a cord. Or do shorter and taller
 

splions

Member
Jul 19, 2008
77
Western R.I.
Do you move those pallets with a FEL? My little L2000DT wouldn't budge something that size.
Too heavy to move...I put some spare plywood on top of them...all set for the winter now...I hope!
 

sportbikerider78

Minister of Fire
Jun 23, 2014
2,493
Saratoga, NY
I choose a kinda flat surface. Then pound in those big green stakes to keep things nice and square. Then I can stack kinda sloppy and not worry about it. 4 stakes per skid and share the 2 between skids.

Enough space between to ride my ATV between them.
 
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