Is this black walnut or poplar? Going back in a couple minutes and want to know what to focus on....
wood butcher said:I'd say black walnut. Great for wood turning but the dust is dangerous. I am burning a lot of black walnut right now.
Thistle said:wood butcher said:I'd say black walnut. Great for wood turning but the dust is dangerous. I am burning a lot of black walnut right now.
When green-turning such as roughing out bowls,vases etc the wet shavings can be irritating sometimes,but mainly if & when you're cutting into the bark & sapwood.Heartwood isnt as bad,though it can vary depending on the individual.
Any machining,sanding etc when the wood is very dry its highly recommended to wear dust mask or respirator.And bathe soon after work is done.The fine dust can be very irritating to sinuses,throat & eyes.
clemsonfor said:Walnut all the way! Poplar is green on the inside, kind of and the bark is not as deeply furrowed or dark. But im a forester, its hard for me to tell you the difference, i just see it, and that AINT poplar! Good score and grab it all that stuff is great, esp if you can make boards or sell to a wood turner, but there like us firewood folks they usually dont pay unless they have to.
Its not as dense as oak or hickory, its actually fairly soft.
dannynelson77 said:clemsonfor said:Walnut all the way! Poplar is green on the inside, kind of and the bark is not as deeply furrowed or dark. But im a forester, its hard for me to tell you the difference, i just see it, and that AINT poplar! Good score and grab it all that stuff is great, esp if you can make boards or sell to a wood turner, but there like us firewood folks they usually dont pay unless they have to.
Its not as dense as oak or hickory, its actually fairly soft.
Black Walnut soft??? Yes its not as "dense" as Oak or Hickory but it sure is not soft wood. Very hard actually.
clemsonfor said:dannynelson77 said:clemsonfor said:Walnut all the way! Poplar is green on the inside, kind of and the bark is not as deeply furrowed or dark. But im a forester, its hard for me to tell you the difference, i just see it, and that AINT poplar! Good score and grab it all that stuff is great, esp if you can make boards or sell to a wood turner, but there like us firewood folks they usually dont pay unless they have to.
Its not as dense as oak or hickory, its actually fairly soft.
Black Walnut soft??? Yes its not as "dense" as Oak or Hickory but it sure is not soft wood. Very hard actually.
On the hardwood spectrum. Im not meaning its a "softwood" in the dendrology sense. But when you look at that Junktus or whatever scale that measures harwood density its not near the top. I beleive ash hard maple (not our trash red maples of the south) all the oaks, hickory etc are way harder. I think some of the top ones are twice the hardness. Im talking from a HW flooring or wood working perspective. Im not a woodworker but had wanted it as HW flooring when i layed my living/formal dining room. I did this my self and you can take you finger nail and crease a finished walnut board, so there was no way with animals in my house i would use it. Its beautiful stuff though.
The Janka scale you mean. Yes Ash and Oak are harder than Black Walnut on that scale. Looks like this.....
Red Oak- 1290
Sugar maple- 1450
White Ash- 1320
Black Walnut- 1010
Black Cherry- 950
Again im no wood worker but am a forester. Im really just talking about that hardness scale where they take the ballbearing and press them into wood to meaure the deflection of the wood for hardness measure.
clemsonfor said:thinking it was softer ohwell. Im an idiot i guess. It is still to soft for flooring in my opinion.
clemsonfor said:Im just going by the samples i had and the scale. I could crease the walnut easy with my nail, the oak not so much. I have inside cats and a dog and the oak is creased and scratched i cant imagine anything softer. If i did not already have oak in the rest of the house i would of put hickory or if the exotics were not so expensive i would have went that route.
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