I bought a new 361, all I can say is Wow. I used it last weekend to cut up a big Ash 30"and some 16" oak and it performed great, It came with the safty chain and bar ANTI KICK BACK but still cut great, am thinking of buying an es bar and semi chisle chain although i do like the idea of anti kickback, am also thinking about the muffler Mod after warrantee is up. I got a great deal on the saw with 20 " bar, list is 609.00 but i had a 25 % coupon to a local hardware store, that they honored, Coupon had a lot of small print and I Think it excluded Stihl products, OOPS. I told my wife you really do need two saws, now I want a 460, where does it end