Brown honey bear

Mholes04

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Hello, new to the site.
Looking to find some information on this stove i recently purchased. Appears to be a Brown honey bear with glass doors and gold ball feet. Serial number is 293 and that's all I can read off the plate. Wondering if it is ul listed and maybe year manufactured.
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coaly

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Wow, that's an early one. '80 or '81? Never saw one with Fireplace Legs.
If you open the right door, there may be a number stamped into the stove face above door opening where the arched door top covers it when closed. The early Honey Bear Inserts built like yours had it stamped there. Maybe that was before tags?

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The tag will have either I.C.B.O. testing, or a WH for Warnock Hersey tested to UL #......... and later a UL sticker type label. Probably ICBO back then.
Here's a sample of some readable tags;

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coaly

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If someone wiped it down with stove black, that removes with soap and water.
I would wipe it with a cloth saturated with mineral spirits, or diesel fuel, or kerosene. The baked on original paint on tags doesn't seem to be affected by those cleaners and a little oil added helps protect the original paint. Stay away from gasoline or lacquer thinner. That takes it all right off. I've only seen Canadian tags with 2 rivets and they didn't have rounded corners.
 

Mholes04

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I cleaned the ID bagde and there isn't much left. I did notice the smoke baffle is different. Appears to be badly warped and needs replaced.
 

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bholler

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Legally if the tag is missing or illegible the stove is not listed.
 

Mholes04

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Thanks for the information coaly and bholler.
Ill be replacing the glass, (one door was broke and replaced with 1/4 inch sheet metal sheared to size) gaskets, and some new stove bright metallic Brown.
I have been thinking about listing this one for sale. The wife says 4 fisher stoves is a little excessive.
 

coaly

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If something like that came up for sale around me, it would be a keeper. That is a good example of one of the first Honey Bears. The Smoke Shelf Baffle must have been used in the first ones before they went to a round flat plate that hangs across the outlet. Your baffle is the design in Goldilocks and Teddy Bear, but both of them were 5/16 thick and didn't warp. Maybe they learned from your model. Are the legs bolted on or welded? They were soon only made in the pedestal or convertible mobile home certified version.

When you clean the existing glass you may find it is amber in color, not clear. That isn't from smoke, they had a gold tint. I believe CanFan on this Forum still has some Honey Bear glass panels that should match the brown tinted color.

In my house, 4 brown ones may be the limit. ;lol A few existed before we were married, so she knew what she was getting into.
 

coaly

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The old small glass like the III style always seems to have gasket in the door channel;

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And the large angled glass like the IV had gasket on door with no channel. Only these very first Honey Bears with the air sliders above glass had the gasket on the old style glass doors that I know of. They had this strange door seal on edge;

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And this one in CA was built like a IV with no channel on the stove, with the old small glass; maybe that's what you did;

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I can't explain what others did, sure was variations that we're finding out about now.