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Not normal either installer is lazy or incompetent should be no wood smoke smell from a properly installed stove.They told me a "little smell is normal"
Not normal either installer is lazy or incompetent should be no wood smoke smell from a properly installed stove.They told me a "little smell is normal"
The top of the chimney should be tight though right? They have to use a chimney cap by code?Still should be a seal plate that the liner goes through to stop drafts Without it you have 6,7 or 8 in.
hole right into your stove room from outside. Just like having a window open
I think I don't understand after re reading this. What is the "flue" made of? It must be masonry if they ran a liner up it. If it were not, they would need double wall pipe.I don't have a masonry chimney... so they ran a liner inside the existing flue... and my home built in 1999 is the opposite of tight... hence the reason I even bought the stove.
That's exactly what I want to suggest to them.. Take it back to the store, and figure it out.Thanks for all those pictures. I believe what you have now is a chimney chase with double wall pipe in it, with a liner in it. This is looking very bad. Almost to the point of removing the stove and running it in a garage/shop with a temporary stove pipe to make sure the stove is good.
I am feeling your pain. The only good thing is you may have picked a good contractor/supplier. They are trying their best to solve the problem but like you say, it's time to divide the problem in half. I wonder if it would be possible to test that stove adapter/tee ect right up to the cap? If it is supposed to be airtight, then it should hold pressure.I tried to post an update but I think I failed... or I posted it in the wrong thread.
Installers came back last night. They
That's exactly what I want to suggest to them.. Take it back to the store, and figure it out.
New Quadra-Fire CB1200-iIf that is a wood fireplace you might get better help in the:
The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces Forum?
I think you missed some posts... That fireplace was removed, and a CB1200-i insert installed.That does not look like a Quadra-Fire CB120i?
If that is a wood fireplace you might get better help in the:
The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces Forum?
I just did a search and found this:I think you missed some posts... That fireplace was removed, and a CB1200-i insert installed.![]()
Good thing you used high temp silicone. Foil tape looks good, nice finished look but is hard to keep all the folds out off and smoke flows out from under tape.Click on pic to enlarge.
Good thing you used high temp silicone. Foil tape looks good, nice finished look but is hard to keep all the folds out off and smoke flows out from under tape.
Oh Yes that is why I always use both with lots of high temperature silicone to fill in first and then test. It never fails this way![]()
Bad luck. I guess it can happen. If it happened all the time, then it would get fixed or redesigned. No one does proper quality control anymore as that would cost more than the part. Let us know how you make out.Well they replaced part 5 & 6 (to me it looks like a single piece, but the diagram lists two).............and it still leaks in what appears to be the exact same location... Part 6 has a cleanout door with a gasket but everything is brand new... he doesn't think the gasket is leaking, he thinks it's faulty welding of the piece itself. All I know is I'm at wits end with the CB1200i.... I guess the only good news is the installers were recording video this time and could actually see the smoke themselves. Maybe they'll need to engage the mfg on this nightmare... right now the techs are speaking with their management to figure out next steps.
Probably the max BTU output would only come into play from a cold start. Once it's been running for 8 hours you probably won't need to run it wide open. Do you think you need 48.5kbtu?I'll keep updating this thread until resolution just for historical purposes. The installers have actually given up. After 5 visits, stacks of gaskets, parts swaps, and high temp silicone, they simply cannot stop the smoke from leaking into the house. Supposedly I will be offered three options:
1. Rip it all out and return to a fireplace setup -> No thanks.
2. Replace the CB1200i with another brand new one -> not sure this would really fix anything.
3. Upgrade to something else. -> I'm interested.
When I asked the installer what he would do if this was HIS house... he hesitated a bit, then began to tell me that although they do replace a lot of parts on the Quads, they are good units and they have never seen anything like what's happening with mine. He also said, the Harman's are basically top of the line and they almost never have problems with them. I'm going to be pissed to spend even more money after this fiasco, but that aside, I can't seem to find a Harman insert that will throw the kinda BTU that my Quad throws. The Quad is rated at 48,500 BTU... (but is a bit loud on high fan mode).
Suggestions?
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