Can Someone Tell me where I can get Blaze King Princess the Cheapest I also need a 35 foot chimney liner kit. I'm in New Jersey.
Can Someone Tell me where I can get Blaze King Princess the Cheapest I also need a 35 foot chimney liner kit. I'm in New Jersey.
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EbS-P
Minister of Fire
That tall flue warns of too strong draft. This system needs to be tested with the stove cold and fully warmed up at operating temps.
Thanks do you think drolet 1800 I would be better for my chimney? If the Chimney was 30 ft would that be better. I have not measured but put a 33foot pole up it to get it to stick out a foot
Drolets are very easy breathing stoves so they would be worse. You can put any stove you want, you will just need a damper or two in order to slow down your draft.
To expand on what was said above, the chimney dictates how a stove runs. Stoves run off vacuum. A chimney with hot exhaust in it pulls fresh air in to the stove as the exhaust rises. Tall chimneys can pull the air in pretty fast, making it hard to control a stove. The greater the difference in temperature between the chimney and outside, the greater the pull is. A chimney that doesn’t draft well when it’s 60 outside will draft like crazy at 20.
Most stoves are designed to run on around 15’ of chimney. Some Canadian stoves are designed to run on less. A 33’ chimney has the potential to draw in so much air that the stove is hard to control. The dampers mentioned above partially block off the chimney so it can’t pull as hard.
Most stoves are designed to run on around 15’ of chimney. Some Canadian stoves are designed to run on less. A 33’ chimney has the potential to draw in so much air that the stove is hard to control. The dampers mentioned above partially block off the chimney so it can’t pull as hard.
No, any insert on that tall of a chimney may have issues with overfiring due to strong draft. If this is a basement install, then there can be another issue, backdrafting. That is, when the chimney is cold, draft reverses. Not all basement chimneys do this, but it is something that needs to be considered, especially if there is evidence of the fireplace doing this without an insert installed.
There was a point in time the BK manual stated dampers were not to be used with their product but also had specific draft requirements not to exceed .08” w/c on high burn. I could not come close to .08 on a cold day on high burn, more like .25 with my 25’ flue so I had to add a key damper. Even with the damper fully shut I can still pull .10 until the flue cools down.
Burnin Since 1991
Minister of Fire
I believe the deal with the dampers is that the EPA doesn't test with dampers and so they don't recommend using them. It's a case by case basis IMHO. A tall chimney like that? I'd put into two dampers. My $.02 and I have always used a damper.
EbS-P
Minister of Fire
I have one on 23’ with a damper in the appliance adapter. It’s just barely enough restriction.
I have on a 17. When it gets to -20 burn times can get quite short without one.
All the Hearthstone stoves I've looked at require quite a bit of draft. Might be a manufacturer worth looking at for your situation. Currently, I have a Hearthstone Craftsbury on 27ish feet of chimney. Even with 2 key dampers I need to babysit the stove or keep my fuel loads small (1-3 small splits). I would love to replace my stove with a Blaze King but with that tall a chimney I don't think it would serve either of us well.
The T6 is on an almost 20' flue. I added a key damper a couple of years back, but don't use it much unless the temps drop into the 20s. It was a calm, 32º this morning and the damper was not necessary for maintaining a steady fire.
I have a key damper on my T5 with a 17ft flue. I can control my fire without it, I don’t overfire, but it drafts hard enough that I reload too often!
If it was me, I would install a freestanding rear vent stove in the fireplace hooked up to a TEE then up an insulated 6" liner. That should help reduce some of the draft.
The setup - this would require something that has a flue outlet top lower than 25".
I suspect that this will need some more thought and possible alternatives like a key damper fabrication and a smaller diameter liner.
