Cape Cod or Blaze King Ashford 30?

Heftiger

Feeling the Heat
Oct 20, 2011
300
Northern CA
Does the fire show change (bigger or smaller) based on the inside or outside temp?
Sort of. I have the thermostat turned up a little more since it's cold, so we got some nice flames. You'll get a fire show after each reload, then it'll calm down.
 

koconnor

New Member
Dec 30, 2015
16
Auburn, CA
Sort of. I have the thermostat turned up a little more since it's cold, so we got some nice flames. You'll get a fire show after each reload, then it'll calm down.
Very nice. I do like a nice fire show to watch while sitting on the couch. I find it very relaxing. How do you adjust the thermostat? Is that the knob on the right side?
 

Heftiger

Feeling the Heat
Oct 20, 2011
300
Northern CA
Very nice. I do like a nice fire show to watch while sitting on the couch. I find it very relaxing. How do you adjust the thermostat? Is that the knob on the right side?
Yes, just the knob. It's so easy the wife even likes it.
 

begreen

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Nov 18, 2005
78,703
South Puget Sound, WA

begreen

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Nov 18, 2005
78,703
South Puget Sound, WA
Does the fire show change (bigger or smaller) based on the inside or outside temp?
What are your normal winter temps? What is your current temp?
 

webby3650

Master of Fire
Sep 2, 2008
10,291
Indiana
The Cape Cod did not stand up well for webby3650 . Of course that is only one data point and it was an early model, but something to consider. Check to see if they now have a flameshield for the cat.
They are not shielding the cat, nor do they have any plans to...
 

webby3650

Master of Fire
Sep 2, 2008
10,291
Indiana
I have read how the heat shield has warped due to high heat and that was the only downside to the cape cod. I like that it has a nice fire show though vs The BK. How does the thermostat work on the BK on top though and does it open and close on its own or do you have to do it manually?
My baffle continually warped, as well as the bracket that holds the andirons. Lopi would do nothing to help me! When I took the tubes out so I could "smash the baffle flat with a hammer" per Lopi instructions, the screws that hold the tubes broke! So not only was I hammering out a baffle on a $3,500 stove, I also get to drill and tap the secondary air manifold. I decided to sell the thing, while I was cleaning it out I found that the stove itself had cracked behind the firebrick. In an area that the average person would never look.

I took great satisfaction sending the Cape Cod back to Travis Industries in a Blaze King Ashford crate!;lol
 

Woody Stover

Minister of Fire
Dec 25, 2010
10,668
Southern IN
What are your normal winter temps?
Maybe four months of burning per year, lotta shoulder action. Low-draft city. Wouldn't necessarily need a big stove, depending on how tight the house is.
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Woody Stover

Minister of Fire
Dec 25, 2010
10,668
Southern IN
Lopi would do nothing to help me!
Hey, they gave you the solution; Smash it flat. ;lol
They did give you a full refund though, right?
 

webby3650

Master of Fire
Sep 2, 2008
10,291
Indiana
Hey, they gave you the solution; Smash it flat. ;lol
They did give you a full refund though, right?
I did get a refund. But I feel like it's only because I work for a hearth store that's sold Lopi from day 1. They were reluctant, and blamed user error the whole time.
 

Ashful

Minister of Fire
Mar 7, 2012
14,939
Philadelphia
I have a 3 story house and the wood stove is on the main floor. Total sq ft for the main floor and 2 bedrooms upstairs is 1800. I like the look of both the cape cod and the BK Ashford 30, trying to figure out which one would work best. My vent us double wall class 'A' pipe approximately 15 feet long. floor plan is open with 8 foot ceilings. Any advice would help, thank you.
Lopi Cape Cod vs Blaze King? Really? You had to even ask?

How about Chevy Cavalier vs Mercedes E-Class? There is no contest, here.
 

Woody Stover

Minister of Fire
Dec 25, 2010
10,668
Southern IN
How about Chevy Cavalier vs Mercedes E-Class?
From another thread: "IIRC, the original gasket was held in place by intermittent blobs of what looked like furnace cement - not a continuous bead."
That doesn't sound like German engineering to me. And in an accident, with that thin sheet metal, that thing will crumple up like a Cavalier. ;lol
 

webby3650

Master of Fire
Sep 2, 2008
10,291
Indiana
From another thread: "IIRC, the original gasket was held in place by intermittent blobs of what looked like furnace cement - not a continuous bead."
That doesn't sound like German engineering to me. ;lol
They've always used black silicone.
 

blueguy

Feeling the Heat
Sep 19, 2012
402
Rusagonis, NB, CANADA
They've always used black silicone.
That quote was mine, and I can 100% assure you there wasn't a single bit of black silicone anywhere on my stove. Every gasket, less the glass gasket, was held in with a grey crusty cement that was not continuous and I am the first owner. Don't get me wrong, I'm not hacking on BK, only stating the facts :)
 

webby3650

Master of Fire
Sep 2, 2008
10,291
Indiana
That quote was mine, and I can 100% assure you there wasn't a single bit of black silicone anywhere on my stove. Every gasket, less the glass gasket, was held in with a grey crusty cement that was not continuous and I am the first owner. Don't get me wrong, I'm not hacking on BK, only stating the facts :)
I've worked on a few dozen BKs, I've never seen anything but silicone. Strange?
 

begreen

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Nov 18, 2005
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South Puget Sound, WA
Maybe four months of burning per year, lotta shoulder action. Low-draft city. Wouldn't necessarily need a big stove, depending on how tight the house is.
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If the stove will be running on it's lowest setting almost all the time there may not be much fire to see at all.
 

begreen

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Nov 18, 2005
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South Puget Sound, WA
I've worked on a few dozen BKs, I've never seen anything but silicone. Strange?
That is strange. Didn't BKVP say to use gasket cement because they were uncertain about the effect of silicone on the cat?
 

rdust

Minister of Fire
Feb 9, 2009
4,526
Michigan
That is strange. Didn't BKVP say to use gasket cement because they were uncertain about the effect of silicone on the cat?
This is from the horses mouth. "We use 3M Dow Corning #732.".
 

begreen

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rdust

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Feb 9, 2009
4,526
Michigan
Hmm, this was a recent thread but haven't found it yet.
some past threads said to use furnace cement
https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/2015-2016-blaze-king-performance-thread-everything-bk.145814/page-3#post-1966021
There are a lot of different types and additives to silicone adhesives so perhaps this was in response to one of the more exotic types?
I think the cement is for the bypass gasket, the door gasket uses silicone. I had a "conversation"(pm) with Chris about the door gasket silicone a couple years back.
 

webby3650

Master of Fire
Sep 2, 2008
10,291
Indiana
I think the cement is for the bypass gasket, the door gasket uses silicone. I had a "conversation"(pm) with Chris about the door gasket silicone a couple years back.
That's correct. Silicone will not hold up on the bypass. Only on the door.
 

begreen

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Nov 18, 2005
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South Puget Sound, WA
I think the cement is for the bypass gasket, the door gasket uses silicone. I had a "conversation"(pm) with Chris about the door gasket silicone a couple years back.
Thanks I found the thread. My error in that it was not a direct statement from Chris.
kf6ha[ said:
I just had a conversation with Chris (BKVP) about the smoke smell issue...Chris is going to provide me with a more dense gasket in an attempt to stop the lateral movement of smoke. A word of caution - do not remove the door to work on it as it is quite difficult to reattach in good alignment. Hold off on using silicone compounds, the long term effect on the cat is unknown.