Corona Virus

[AlbergSteve]

Not mention that if I don’t bring it home the wife is an ER Nurse and Paramedic so she will give it to me.

...and you go to the gym and give it to someone else. FFS!

 

[begreen]

Sobering milestone. Right now we are in a very intense period with deaths doubling every 3 days. When the number of days starts to rise that will be an indication of the pandemic slowing down. In S. Korea it is every 12 days. In China it is now every 35 days. The world is currently at 7 days.

Coronavirus Pandemic (COVID-19)

Country-by-country data and research on the pandemic. Updated daily.

ourworldindata.org

 

[Medic21]

...and you go to the gym and give it to someone else. FFS!

No, any symptoms from anyone and it’s 14 days at home.

You also have to admit that if People are making that choicw to continue to risk themselves when they still have a choice, I don’t, it’s on them not me.

 

[Medic21]

...and you go to the gym and give it to someone else. FFS!

The more I think about it the questions you should be asking me how do we plan on not spreading it as paramedics going into peoples houses, in and out of hospitals, in the nursing homes, etc. Having that 2 to 14 day incubation and asymptomatic periods. I share beds with the other two crews that work or station. Especially now that the CDC has it knowledged the nationwide paramedic shortage and there’s no self Quarantine requirements anymore. As long as staffing allows my employer has one but, if we have two paramedics off that’s going to go out the window. These are just the VAX if you want us around when you have a heart attack, stroke, accident, etc. The other 15,000 runs a year we have in our service arnet gonna stop We just get the privilege of adding to it. So enjoy yourself Quarantine and social distancing. I’m actually worrying about the rest of the population.

 

[woodnomore]

Peppers aren't really prepared, they are just as scared as everyone else.

They can gloat while they eat MRE's

 

[Ashful]

... and then there’s this:

Trending: Out-of-control teenagers coughing on grocery store produce - Washington Examiner

Idle teenagers are participating in a “disturbing trend” of coughing on grocery store produce and posting their pranks online as the nation fights the coronavirus, which is known to spread from human “droplets” spraying from mouths.The latest incident occurred in the Washington exurb of...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[kennyp2339]

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Easy there partner, as a volley firefighter, emt, power co. guy we are looked at by the general public for providing a sense of stability, more or less, whether your on duty or off duty, on the internet, at the store, ect.. we need to hold ourselves to a higher standard then the general public. When people get scared they go to grab the low hanging fruit first, attack with little provocation and generally are hyper sensitive, regardless of our personal feelings we still need to be the strength and courage in the room, our demeanor needs to show urgency and stability.

 

[woodnomore]

... and then there’s this:

Trending: Out-of-control teenagers coughing on grocery store produce - Washington Examiner

Idle teenagers are participating in a “disturbing trend” of coughing on grocery store produce and posting their pranks online as the nation fights the coronavirus, which is known to spread from human “droplets” spraying from mouths.The latest incident occurred in the Washington exurb of...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

I am not a violent person but if I saw this happening there would be a violent physical reaction.

 

[Ashful]

We know the Chinese consider themselves to be overpopulated and killed any second born child up until 2015 when a second child was allowed

This is simply not true. I personally know a few second-born Chinese, born in the 1980’s, in the middle of the program you are falsely referring. China is a socialist country, and childcare is largely paid for by the government. The program to which you are referring simply reduced childcare reimbursements for families having more than one child. This coerced less wealthy families to limit themselves to having just one child, but those who could afford it still had more than one, even daughters.

No, any symptoms from anyone and it’s 14 days at home.

Aren’t people potentially contagious before showing symptoms?

 

[vinny11950]

This made my day

 

[SpaceBus]

There was no SARS in S. Korea , but yes for Taiwan and Singapore, once burned, twice learned. FWIW, we had to deal with H1N1, ebola, SARS and Zika. The difference is that they know contagion is possible and have plans in place so they were quick to mobilize and test. They wasted no time establishing the kind of safe practices that will minimize the opportunity for spillover. They were invested in risk protection and had good supplies to get testing quickly and extensively. We too had invested but this was dismantled. And rather than immediately buying WHO tests to at least buy us time, we insisted in doing it our own way. The first try at that failed costing precious time.

No, most of SE Asia has a lot of experience with SARS. It's easy to forget because the US was invading Iraq at the time, but SARS spread to 29 territories across the globe 2002-2004. The South Koreans knew how to handle it because of the previous SARS outbreak.

 

[SpaceBus]

This is simply not true. I personally know a few second-born Chinese, born in the 1980’s, in the middle of the program you are falsely referring. China is a socialist country, and childcare is largely paid for by the government. The program to which you are referring simply reduced childcare reimbursements for families having more than one child. This coerced less wealthy families to limit themselves to having just one child, but those who could afford it still had more than one, even daughters.

Aren’t people potentially contagious before showing symptoms?

Actually the One Child Policy lead to the deaths of probably millions of developed fetuses and children. Thousands were abducted and sent to orphanages to be sold to wealthy folks worldwide. It was a big deal. You are grossly misinformed about this topic, as have I been until recently. Prime put out a good documentary about the issue.

Rest assured that the Chinese government is far from socialist and they did not pay for any child care. They paid to give people abortions and sterilizations.

 

[SpaceBus]

They can gloat while they eat MRE's

They will have a few more months, or even years, of terrible rations while I just grow my own food.

 

[SpaceBus]

I am not a violent person but if I saw this happening there would be a violent physical reaction.

There are grown ass adults doing this too. There are several stories of adult Americans going out and doing things while knowing they are infected.

 

[Medic21]

This is simply not true. I personally know a few second-born Chinese, born in the 1980’s, in the middle of the program you are falsely referring. China is a socialist country, and childcare is largely paid for by the government. The program to which you are referring simply reduced childcare reimbursements for families having more than one child. This coerced less wealthy families to limit themselves to having just one child, but those who could afford it still had more than one, even daughters.

Aren’t people potentially contagious before showing symptoms?

Not potentially, they usually are.

 

[Medic21]

Easy there partner, as a volley firefighter, emt, power co. guy we are looked at by the general public for providing a sense of stability, more or less, whether your on duty or off duty, on the internet, at the store, ect.. we need to hold ourselves to a higher standard then the general public. When people get scared they go to grab the low hanging fruit first, attack with little provocation and generally are hyper sensitive, regardless of our personal feelings we still need to be the strength and courage in the room, our demeanor needs to show urgency and stability.

It’s nice you feel that way. I will not be lectured to by a civilian that has no clue. Especially condescending type of conversation. I’ve had over 25 years to earn that right.

we are running are balls off on a normal day with everyone’s petty crap and now we add the ignorance of this whole situation to it. My tolerance was gone a long time ago. No one has to thank me. They wouldn’t do it any other time So why start now. But, I wouldn’t tolerate crap like that any other day.

 

[Sodbuster]

This is simply not true. I personally know a few second-born Chinese, born in the 1980’s, in the middle of the program you are falsely referring. China is a socialist country, and childcare is largely paid for by the government. The program to which you are referring simply reduced childcare reimbursements for families having more than one child. This coerced less wealthy families to limit themselves to having just one child, but those who could afford it still had more than one, even daughters.

Aren’t people potentially contagious before showing symptoms?

It definitely used to be the case especially if the second born was a girl. I stand corrected, however, after further reading it sounds like they have relaxed or eliminated those rules. The problem most Chinese have is affording that second child.

 

[SidecarFlip]

Time for a chill pill.We all have our tasks to complete. me, I need to farm and stay clear of this Chinese induced killer virus and you all need to slow down a bit. The sky isn't falling yet. May be a bit overcast but last time I looked (early this morning), the sun came up, right on time.

Right now at this juncture, I'm concerned about my own well being and my immediate family's well being and how we can mitigate the impact of the virus and in reality, that is about all we are concerned with, None of us can control the actions of other's it's up to them as individuals to take the road they choose but at the same time, take responsibility for the actions or inactions, whatever that may be.

Try to make today, the best day of your life, how I roll at least.

 

[SidecarFlip]

[QUOTE="Medic21, post: 2430753, member: I usually workout on the way home so those clothes go in with it and I take a shower. Only after that do I hug the kids or anything else. Those habits are perfect for now, except I shower before and after the gym

Im very surprised your gym is still open or the fact your still heading there while there's an ongoing pandemic. I think you should really reconsider your normal routine....like everyone else, it's time to wake up and realize this isn't going away unless everyone does their part.

If you farmed like I do, you'd never need to 'workout' at all. It always amazes me that people actually pay to 'workout' in some 'health club' when all the really need to do is get off their sedate butts and do some real physical work at home or farm like I do.

You want a 'workout' come toss bales of forage for me. Those 55 pound bales will give you all the workout you require and it's free. I'll supply the bottled water and you can burn off those calories to your heart's content.

Everytime I pass a 'health club' I chuckle to myself and think, how utterly stupid people are. here they are, paying for something they can do for free. Whatever blows your dress up I guess. Don't blow mine up at all.

 

[woodnomore]

If you farmed like I do, you'd never need to 'workout' at all. It always amazes me that people actually pay to 'workout' in some 'health club' when all the really need to do is get off their sedate butts and do some real physical work at home or farm like I do.

You want a 'workout' come toss bales of forage for me. Those 55 pound bales will give you all the workout you require and it's free. I'll supply the bottled water and you can burn off those calories to your heart's content.

Everytime I pass a 'health club' I chuckle to myself and think, how utterly stupid people are. here they are, paying for something they can do for free. Whatever blows your dress up I guess. Don't blow mine up at all.

Bet you I could beat you in a marathon, throwing bales of hay will not prep you for that.

 

[Grizzerbear]

Bet you I could beat you in a marathon, throwing bales of hay will not prep you for that.

If you follow behind my Grand father while he is pulling the hay trailer loading bales you better be at a brisk walk with two bales at a time.....that's a pretty good cardio workout.

 

[festerw]

Bet you I could beat you in a marathon, throwing bales of hay will not prep you for that.

Yup apples/oranges there.

Some people enjoy lifting weights, some enjoy cardio, some enjoy physical labor.

A lot of my job involves moving heavy things around. Still hit the gym 3-5 days week and ran 5 Half Marathons last year.

None will hurt and it also may or may not help against a virus.

 

[Sodbuster]

Bet you I could beat you in a marathon, throwing bales of hay will not prep you for that.

You've obviously never have thrown a bale, it definitely gets the heart pumping, especially when throwing them 8-9 rows high. Plus running is hard on the joints, especially the knees.

 

[woodnomore]

You've obviously never have thrown a bale, it definitely gets the heart pumping, especially when throwing them 8-9 rows high. Plus running is hard on the joints, especially the knees.

And you would be wrong, We have had horses here on the ranch for 25 plus years, and I run on machines to remove most of the shock of running on hard ground.

 

[Medic21]

If you farmed like I do, you'd never need to 'workout' at all. It always amazes me that people actually pay to 'workout' in some 'health club' when all the really need to do is get off their sedate butts and do some real physical work at home or farm like I do.

You want a 'workout' come toss bales of forage for me. Those 55 pound bales will give you all the workout you require and it's free. I'll supply the bottled water and you can burn off those calories to your heart's content.

Everytime I pass a 'health club' I chuckle to myself and think, how utterly stupid people are. here they are, paying for something they can do for free. Whatever blows your dress up I guess. Don't blow mine up at all.

I still farm. Come get an SCBA and turnout gear. I’ll take you through the confidence course and then if you think that’s easy we can do the CPAT.

firefighting and EMS is a combination of strength and endurance. Throwing all that gear on and dragging a hose line into 400-500 degree heat and working your ass off for 25 min is nothing like working on a farm.

It’s nothing about burning calories and everything about having the endurance to pull my brother out if he goes down.