Disappointing quadra fire service

[Coog]

I was having a problem with the 7100 blackening the glass. Didn't matter how hot I got it, the glass stayed black. I learned early on that Hearth and Home does not like to work directly with the owner. Fortunately I had a competent dealer that played the intermediary. They actually sent two technicians and determined that two interior welds were missing allowing air to enter the firebox. They plan to come back and set the welds. The wife is real excited about that.

Growing kind of concerned about Quadrafire myself.

 

[Pallet Pete]

I would like to know just how these bricks are failing so quickly. My IR is old - been worked like a rented mule and I have not had the need to replace any bricks, and none are cracked. Yes - I am started to see wear and rounded edges, but none have failed.

This is not a slam against any users, more curiosity. I wonder if the bricks of yesteryear are different than the current ones? For the record, mine are pumice.

And yes, Quad is known to work through their dealers. It is a bit upsetting that you can't call them directly. Your service experience is now directly related to your dealer. That can be good or bad.

Our Harmon bricks did the same thing until I put tsc bricks in it and we didn't even have it a year.

Pete

 

[aansorge]

Enerzone (SBI) has been great to me...when my last fan went out they gave me two for free! Well, the local dealer did but I think it was ok'ed by SBI.

 

[northwinds]

I know I cracked my brick by loading too hard north/south. I also cracked the brick with the hole through it. The pumice bricks are expensive, but my
maintenance costs on the Isle Royale, averaged over the years, has been miniscule.

 

[Jags]

I have yet to spend a dime after the initial purchase. 11 full winters beating the snot out of this thing. I have, however had to tap the upper right hinge pin back down...twice. The high maintenance is killing me.

 

[Trilifter7]

I would have to say I am happy with how Quad and my dealer has handled my situation. They are replacing my entire burner assembly under warranty due to a sliding firebrick above my burners. My dealer came out and took pics to send to quad, no questions asked. Quad approved replacement and the dealer is handling all the labor. I'm just glad It happened now and not during the burn season!

 

[Ashful]

You guys with stoves too young to go to war or drink are just plain spoiled.

 

[Johnpolk]

My hinge pins slide up also. I can live with that. Is anyone here an expert on fire brick. I'm thinking about replacing the two broken bricks with ones from tractor central or menards. Only problem is those ones are not pumice. What's the difference? Is pumice a better insulator? Would it be enough of A difference to matter at all?

 

[Jags]

The brick discussion has been severely beaten. The bottom line is: YES, there is a difference in reflective and absorption properties from one style of brick to the other. I always suggest to go with the style that the MFG used. They used it for a reason. Maybe it keeps the internal temps hotter, maybe it keeps more heat off of the skin of the stove (clearance to combustibles)...I don't know why they chose what they do, but they do.

 

[Johnpolk]

I know they have the basic fire brick at most places, anyone know where to get pumice fire brick instead of going online

 

[Jags]

If you know of any place that deals with supplies for forges, industrial furnace...places like that, it might be worthy of a phone call.

Be aware that even in the pumice style brick, there are many variations for all sorts of different applications.

 

[Johnpolk]

I went to menards and bought 2 ceramic bricks for $3 a piece. Also bought a carbide hole saw for $10. 5 minutes of drilling and ta da! I decided that buying 2 $40 pumice bricks from quadra fire was crazy. $80 would buy a lot of LP if my goal is to save money burning wood. Hopefully any performance difference is negligible with the ceramic brick

 

[Jags]

For curiosity, do you have an IR thermo? If you do, it would be interesting to know if the surface area where you put those bricks is any different temps that surface area covered by the pumice style.

 

[Johnpolk]

I will see if any differ temps but its in the rear of stove so would be hard to see if there is a difference

 

[Trilifter7]

Yea that could be hard to tell. I'll be curious to know if you notice any difference from them

 

[stoveguy2esw]

My hinge pins slide up also. I can live with that. Is anyone here an expert on fire brick. I'm thinking about replacing the two broken bricks with ones from tractor central or menards. Only problem is those ones are not pumice. What's the difference? Is pumice a better insulator? Would it be enough of A difference to matter at all?

pull the pins out and scribble on them with a pencil. the usual reason for the pins walking up on this application is that the hinge hole in the door and the one on the stove body are not quite perfectly square to each other. applying graphite lubricates it a bit and with less traction in most cases gravity will hold them down better

 

[Trilifter7]

pull the pins out and scribble on them with a pencil. the usual reason for the pins walking up on this application is that the hinge hole in the door and the one on the stove body are not quite perfectly square to each other. applying graphite lubricates it a bit and with less traction in most cases gravity will hold them down better

That's a great idea! I'm going to try that on my pins