Earth Stove rebuild many pictures

Roospike · Jan 24, 2007

bruce56bb · Jan 24, 2007

that is quite impressive spike! how many hours do you have wrapped up in that project?

Roospike · Jan 24, 2007

bruce said:
that is quite impressive spike! how many hours do you have wrapped up in that project?

Thanks bruce , this one took about 8 total hours from start to finish and 2 coats of paint.
Some people just dont want to let there babys go and would much rather have there stove rebuilt.

I have another one in the shop now that is a 1977-78 Earthstove in worse shape then the posted one.

80% of the stove rebuilds i get are Earthstoves , very popular models.

Harley · Jan 24, 2007

Very nice work, Spike !!!

What makes you think that stove was overfired before??? :cheese:

Shane · Jan 24, 2007

I don't understand the sentimental attachment to stoves. I understand cars, houses etc. Stoves to me are an appliance, when it wears out chances are that technology has advanced and investment in a newer unit is worthwhile. I would rebuild a stove if the technology hadn't advanced, that's logical if it can be done for under 1/2 the cost of the original unit. To each his own, and lucky for those folks there is someone around that takes the time to rebuild them.

elkimmeg · Jan 24, 2007

Impressive !!!

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frwinks · Jan 24, 2007

looks great !!!

are you using mild steel for the pannels?? I need a baffle and two pannels for our HeritageII but can't seem to find the parts. I think I'll have to fabricate them. Thanks for any input you can offer, your stove turned out great.

ourhouse · Jan 24, 2007

Nice job Roo. That came out great.

BrotherBart · Jan 24, 2007

Great job Spike. A real shame you weren't closer. The tank would have been back on the hearth in no time.

Jags · Jan 24, 2007

Great job Spike. I know that stove was a pre-epa, but was that a pretty good stove in the day? I ask for a reason. I have the identical twin to the one in your pictures (the one I have is in much better condition than before you started the rebuild). It has been sitting on blocks, shoved into a corner of one of my sheds. As a matter of fact it still has the original "viewing screen" that could be used when the door was removed. Just wondering if I should consider this piece for recycling, or maybe view it as a viable, usable stove (not in my house, but maybe for someone in need)?

Shane · Jan 24, 2007

Those Earthstoves do throw the heat. One of my friends has one still in operation and while it does eat the wood it warms his basement nicely.

Gunner · Jan 24, 2007

Really nice work spike

kevinmoelk · Jan 24, 2007

Beautiful work Spike! And thanks for stopping along the way to take photos. Very educational. I bet that stove owner is one happy camper.

-Kevin

Roospike · Jan 24, 2007

Harley said:
Very nice work, Spike

What makes you think that stove was overfire before??? :cheese:

Thanks Harley
Ha , Must of been the white on the outside that gave it away ;-P /

Shane said:
I don't understand the sentimental attachment to stoves. I understand cars, houses etc. Stoves to me are an appliance, when it wears out chances are that technology has advanced and investment in a newer unit is worthwhile. I would rebuild a stove if the technology hadn't advanced, that's logical if it can be done for under 1/2 the cost of the original unit. To each his own, and lucky for those folks there is someone around that takes the time to rebuild them.

When you have the family stove in the front room that shared all the memories and Holidays sometimes the sentimental attachment can be strong.
The Earth Stoves were fitted with 8" pipes and chimney and to just upgrade a stove to todays modern stove would also take new pipe and a new hearth as everything would have to come back up to code. So its fix the old stove or start over from almost scratch.

elkimmeg said:
Impressive!

Thanks Elk . Nothing like having your head in the stove for a few hours. ;-) You know about that.

frwinks said:
looks great are you using mild steel for the pannels?? I need a baffle and two pannels for our HeritageII but can't seem to find the parts. I think I'll have to fabricate them. Thanks for any input you can offer, your stove turned out great.

Thanks frwinks .
Everything new is mild steel. The thicknesses were increased to overthrow and manufacturing flaws that might of been at the time the stove was made. ( at least that what i told the client ) I think we can chalk this one up to user error.

earthharvester said:
Nice job Roo. That came out great.

Thanks EH . Maybe in 24 more years some one will look at the stove and admire the Earthstove workmanship . LOL :-P

BrotherBart said:
Great job Spike. A real shame you weren't closer. The tank would have been back on the hearth in no time.

Thanks Brother B . I'd a hooked you up brother. You know what it means about a wood stove and sentimental attachment .

Jags said:
Great job Spike. I know that stove was a pre-epa, but was that a pretty good stove in the day? I ask for a reason. I have the identical twin to the one in your pictures (the one I have is in much better condition than before you started the rebuild). It has been sitting on blocks, shoved into a corner of one of my sheds. As a matter of fact it still has the original "viewing screen" that could be used when the door was removed. Just wondering if I should consider this piece for recycling, or maybe view it as a viable, usable stove (not in my house, but maybe for someone in need)?

Thanks Jags.
The Earthstoves were really popular in the 70's-80's , there are still thousands being used today I'm sure. I have 1 neighbor behind me that has 2 Earthstoves in his house and the neighbor next to me has 1 in his house. My parents and 1 of my brothers have Earthstoves and running them still today. ( been in the house sense the stoves were new ) I have given them the long speech on modern stoves but i think its more sentimental attachment then just the ferw $$ to upgrade. Its like getting a Craftsman chainsaw user to upgrade to a modern Husqvarna/Stihl/ect chainsaw , when they think what they have is fine and it works for them there is no changing.

Cant tell you what to do with your Earth stove , As a Hearth.com member I say recycle it. As someone on the outside looking in and not being on the greener side of wood burning and some one that didnt know better ........... these old Earthstove are selling locally for $250. - $750. , the better condition the more $$ .

The fire viewing screen were a big "need to have item" when these stove were in there prime , most are lost and few are even used , the front door is at an angle and the stove kinda had smoke issues with the screen if the right wood wasn't used or the load was too big. It kinda a nice "bling" item to offer with the stove.

Shane said:
Those Earthstoves do throw the heat. One of my friends has one still in operation and while it does eat the wood it warms his basement nicely.

Thanks Shane.
These stoves had a huge firebox and threw a lot of heat when needed , most of the overfire large stoves were basement installed. Not too bad when in the living area , most people had a tendisnty to over load the huge fire box and turn it down .

Gunner said:
Really nice work spike

Thanks brother Gunner.

wrenchmonster said:
Beautiful work Spike! And thanks for stopping along the way to take photos. Very educational. I bet that stove owner is one happy camper.

-Kevin

Thanks wrench.
Normally work pictures are not taken but sense being on this forum i thought it might be interesting.

The wife of the couple that wanted the stove rebuilt called me 2 weeks after we reinstalled it to let me know her husband was more excited over the stove rebuild then he was when they bought the stove 24+ years ago. A lot of memories she said ..... kids growing , helping dad with wood , all the bad winters , Holidays , get togethers .

MountainStoveGuy · Jan 24, 2007

I didnt know you were in the stove biz!
Great work man.

stoveguy2esw · Jan 24, 2007

looks like ya done the old girl proud roo, great looking work! does look like she got hot a few times. always get a kick outta older units like that , looks like she's ready to dance again now. great job!

Roospike · Jan 25, 2007

MountainStoveGuy said:
I didnt know you were in the stove biz!
Great work man.

Thanks Ryan.
Ha , The stove just happens to be in the metal biz , we'll fix'er up fer ya.

stoveguy said:
looks like ya done the old girl proud roo, great looking work! does look like she got hot a few times. always get a kick outta older units like that , looks like she's ready to dance again now. great job!

Thanks Mike.
I'd say she'll dance for another 25 years with the thicker steel parts , thats if the owners are still up to dancing with wood for that much longer.

BrotherBart · Jan 25, 2007

I am really hating losing the old stove now. Damnit!

One freakin weld. Not a bit of the work the one in the pics needed.

precaud · Jan 25, 2007

Impressive work, Spike. Looks like a fun project. If you can do that in 8 hours, you're Superman!

Hogwildz · Jan 25, 2007

Truly amazing work man !!!

!! You have all the right equipment too, man I;d love to get me a plasma cutter.
I was wondering, how hard would it have been to out ceramic glass in that door so fire viewing would be possible.
And...what are the two tube like protrutions on the back wall? are they to hold a back shield?

kevinmoelk · Jan 25, 2007

Notice the nice clean shop also.

A man who takes care of his tools takes pride in his work, as evidenced in the photos.

-Kevin

restorer · Jan 25, 2007

Roospike said:
bruce said:

that is quite impressive spike! how many hours do you have wrapped up in that project?

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Thanks bruce , this one took about 8 total hours from start to finish and 2 coats of paint.
Some people just dont want to let there babys go and would much rather have there stove rebuilt.

I have another one in the shop now that is a 1977-78 Earthstove in worse shape then the posted one.

80% of the stove rebuilds i get are Earthstoves , very popular models.

Spike:

Great work. If a stove takes you eight hours, and the customer wants it documented, charge double. It would take me that long to document the photos. Just spent a few hours with a friend who restores Volvos. Watched him sand a square foot repair on a curved roof panel as we talked. I know you will not be able to detect the repair. Our work, ( I include myself because I do restoration work) lives or dies in the detail. Congratulations on the attention to those details

Roospike · Jan 25, 2007

BrotherBart said:
I am really hating losing the old stove now. Damnit!

One freakin weld. Not a bit of the work the one in the pics needed.

But look at all the fun you would of missed out on the shipping and installing the new one.

Roospike · Jan 25, 2007

precaud said:
Impressive work, Spike. Looks like a fun project. If you can do that in 8 hours, you're Superman!

Thanks precaud.
luckly i like to do these kind of things ( Its how i make a living in my real shop ) Normally the stoves and odd ball items i do in my home shop and it gives me more to do in the winter time.

I have done a few Earth stoves before so i made blue prints the first time around so when i get another like and kind model i already know the measurments and parts needed.

wrenchmonster said:
Notice the nice clean shop also.

A man who takes care of his tools takes pride in his work, as evidenced in the photos.

-Kevin

Gotz to keep the ole shop clean , working with machinery , tools and such it would be a shame to fall and get hurt on a damn broom laying on the floor. I also work faster , better & safter when everything is in its place and in know where to find it.

UncleRich said:
Spike:Great work. If a stove takes you eight hours, and the customer wants it documented, charge double. It would take me that long to document the photos. Just spent a few hours with a friend who restores Volvos. Watched him sand a square foot repair on a curved roof panel as we talked. I know you will not be able to detect the repair. Our work, ( I include myself because I do restoration work) lives or dies in the detail. Congratulations on the attention to those details

I normally dont take pictures of the process as it does eat away at time buts it nice to have pictures to look back on of different things.
My "real shop" rate is $65. p/h and normally were not doing wood stoves , I take the stoves home and work on them on the weekends and other odd times as well as other odd items and new builds , i like to keep busy in the home shop and charge less for week end projects that are not on a big time budget.
For the home shop i only charge $30. p/h so the final cost of the rebuild plus parts was just a bit over $300. I wait to drink the beer when I'm done so I'm sure not to drag out a project too long.

Roospike · Jan 25, 2007

Hogwildz said:
Truly amazing work man!! You have all the right equipment too, man I;d love to get me a plasma cutter.
I was wondering, how hard would it have been to out ceramic glass in that door so fire viewing would be possible.
And...what are the two tube like protrutions on the back wall? are they to hold a back shield?

Actually Earth stove did go to a glass door in this model with a steel door but the glass was small, they did end up going with a cast iron door but that was about the end of the run for this model / style < then some time after that lennox took them over or something like that > made a smaller Earth stove "like" this style and on to other models. Like our member bruce and his Earth stove insert.

O' back to about the glass , this models air inlet is in the bottom back and didnt have any kind of air was system so #1 the glass would smoke over in a matter of minutes & #2 This thin steel door with a glass cut out would warp real quick and another reason they had the cast door on the letter models ( and they hinged from the side and not the bottom )

The two "tube like protrutions" on the back wall of the stove are air tubes / inlets . I think there supposed to work to help draft and prevent the stove from being shut down all the way. They go from the back of the stove behind the heat shield , through the stove and aim twards the top.

Hogwildz said:
man I;d love to get me a plasma cutter.

Awe , ya only live once , go buy you a new toy . I'll let ya take mine for a test run next time you in the neighborhood, Your only a few states away . %-P

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