Englander 30???? Too Much?????

[Maineah]

Looking at buying a wood stove to heat an 1100-1200 sqft house. Part of the house (460 sqft) was new in 2003 r-19 in the walls with r-30 in the ceiling. The new part has a cathedral ceiling that is approx. 14 ft high and tapers to 10 ft. this is an open living space that has kitchen and family room. this is where the wood stove will be located. The rest of the house (700 sqft) is circa 1950 and houses a dining room, 2 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms all with 8' ceilings. The new and old part are connected by a 10 ft wide arch way to the dining room with the bedrooms direct off the dining room.

Any how the question is, will the Englander 30 be too much? We are looking at running the stove most of the day and night. Our climate is semi cold in the winter about 25 - 40 degrees days and 10-30 at night.

Thanks for your help.

 

[BrotherBart]

I burn in a 30-NCL and think to burn clean in the stove you are going to end up sleeping in the front yard. Way too much stove. Everybody says "Well just burn smaller loads.". Well, with a good draft the 30-NC knows one way to burn, 500 degrees and up. Small load, big load, medium load. It cruises at 550-600. And that is a big chunk of 500-600 degree steel and bricks.

I am told that because I don't live in Maine that I don't know about cold. But I know about 90 degrees in the house when it is 18 degrees outside. :shut:

A stove better matched to the area to be heated run hotter is much better suited to comfort and clean burning. In your case probably something in the two cubic foot firebox range.

There are several other 30 owners on here now. Let's see what they say.

 

[fossil]

...I am told that because I don't live in Maine that I don't know about cold.

North of 60 would probably say the folks in Maine don't know about cold. Size your stove to your needs, but certainly no smaller. If you're gonna err, make it in the larger direction, but not by more than you might need. Rick

 

[Corie]

Don't do it. I tried to heat my 1000 sq. ft. with it and it was just stupid. You really don't need anything more than a 13-NC for a house that size.

 

[begreen]

Yeah, too much. I wouldn't play with the thought of a 30 NC in a 1200 sq ft home unless daytime temps hovered at -30 and the windows were made of rice paper. Even then you'd be cooked on one side and frozen on the other. You're to be congratulated for the good job with insulation, but that may mean occasionally opening a window even with the 13-NC.

 

[Maineah]

thanks for the replies so far seems to pretty clear the stove would be too much

 

[Thomask9590]

Good feed back. But I love to be hot, than again shorts and a tank top in January just doesnt seem right.

 

[Maineah]

T Gun,

How do you like the Napoleon 1400? We are also considering that as well as the 1100.

 

[Tfin]

I run a 13NC in my 960 sq ft well insulated ranch and even this stove can and has forced us to open the windows at times last season. To the stoves credit, it was my first year burning it and I expect to have much more control this season.

I would definately give the 13 some consideration for your heating needs. I probably sound like a broken record since I pretty much say the same thing in any post concerning the 13. I don't work for or have any affiliation with Englander, I'm just a big fan of the little heat pump they produce.

 

[Maineah]

Tfin,

Thanks, how long were your burn times and how much wood did you use last winter????

 

[SlyFerret]

I put a 30 in my 1600 sqft house, and it's still a bit more stove than I needed.

I'll probably spend the first half of the next season trying to learn how to control it.

The 30's little brother (I think it's the 13) would probably serve you very well.

-SF

 

[Tfin]

Tfin,

Thanks, how long were your burn times and how much wood did you use last winter????

The oak I burnt last season wasn't 100% seasoned, but I was getting around 6hrs on a full load with a good bed of coals. This year the oak I have left should be fully seasoned, so I'm expecting any where from 6-8 hrs.

I stared burning the end of Nov, and burnt right through the end of this last April. In that time (with oak) I burnt about 2 1/4 cord.

I'm figuring 3 cord will get me through a full season of burning.

 

[Maineah]

Thanks TFIN

 

[Maineah]

Does anyone know the true clearance to combustibles on the Englander 13? The online manual is confusing, it show closer clearances with no heat shield and a single wall pipe. Is it a "listed" stove? Local FD codes go by what the manual says as long as it a listed stove with an independent lab.I have decided to go with the 13 rather than the 30 despite the fact I loved the size of the 30 firebox and size stick it would hold. Local Home Depot has it for 599, can't beat it.

 

[BrotherBart]

Does anyone know the true clearance to combustibles on the Englander 13? The online manual is confusing, it show closer clearances with no heat shield and a single wall pipe. Is it a "listed" stove? Local FD codes go by what the manual says as long as it a listed stove with an independent lab.I have decided to go with the 13 rather than the 30 despite the fact I loved the size of the 30 firebox and size stick it would hold. Local Home Depot has it for 599, can't beat it.

The Intertek/Warnock Hersey listing seal is on page one of the manual. Intertek tests and certifies the stove to applicable UL standards.

 

[Tfin]

Does anyone know the true clearance to combustibles on the Englander 13? The online manual is confusing, it show closer clearances with no heat shield and a single wall pipe. Is it a "listed" stove? Local FD codes go by what the manual says as long as it a listed stove with an independent lab.I have decided to go with the 13 rather than the 30 despite the fact I loved the size of the 30 firebox and size stick it would hold. Local Home Depot has it for 599, can't beat it.

Yes it is a listed stove. I have my stove setup kitty-corner in our living room. The stove comes with the rear heat shield, but I also ordered the side heat shields as well. I believe with the heat shields installed, it allows you to place the stove within 8 1/2" of a combustible surface (I have mine at 9"). I believe its 18" without.

If you run single wall pipe up out of the flue collar, it must be 18" away from a combustible surface as well, unless you install a heat shield on that. I bought one, but due to having my stove kitty-cornered, and with the back two corners of the stove 9" away from the wall, it put the stove pipe right at 18" from the walls, so I didn't need to install it.

If you wanted your stove 9" away from a single wall, you'd have to install the pipe heat shield.

 

[fibes]

I have a 1400 sq home, it is old with some insulation and older windows, would like to get you opinions on which englander would be best. Plan to heat most of the time with wood

 

[cmonSTART]

We have a similar home and we use a 30. It does pretty well for us. You may want to start a new post and give us some more details.