EV vs ICE

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And hybrids (i.e. ICE engines) are most reliable - despite the arguments about # of parts in the drivetrain.
Suggests that ICE engines have developed so well over the decades (century...) that they still beat electric motors (despite a similar length of development).
Or (more likely) that most EV design teams had not enough knowledge of car design beyond the engine (see your trouble with suspension etc., not the electric motors).

Hybrids are more reliable than ICE probably because Toyota and Honda are dominant in that sector. It’s seems not to be motor and battery issues. It’s everything else.

What we are seeing now is that it takes a few years to get it all right. And we already knew that. It took Toyota a while to learn how to make cars more reliable than the competition.

My takeaways is any 2023 or newer Model 3 and Y has the cheapest ownership cost for the next 7 years.

Oh and the control arms I replaced Jan 24 for replaced 372 days later 10k miles. New independent shoe has a 3 year 30k parts and labor warranty Tesla wouldn’t do a thing for despite being at Tesla 40 days ago and being asked to check the front suspension. He also said all the Teslas control arms are failing at higher rates than anything he’s seen. So much so that he had parts in stock for mine.