I need a fan for a thelin parlour 3000 .... How should I go about it without going broke? Thanks guys
Fan ... Thelin parlour 3000
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Is yours going to break the bank? I priced one today online somewhere wasn't thelin .... And they wanted $500
I have replaced the blower and the auger on my Thelin. Parts are very reasonable from Thelin and the customer service is great.
Ummmmm, yeah. I don't mean to step on toes here but my educated guess would be that Gumby hasn't had to deal with Thelin in many years. They do not sell parts direct and haven't for some time now. Their dealer here where I live was so shocked at the price of the replacement fan motor that he literally called Thelin to confirm it. The sku price he had was $94 but when he punched it in, it was replaced replace with a new sku and price of $430. That's four hundred and thirty dollars. His jaw dropped along with mine. He called them up and they confirmed that the "new motor comes complete with a gasket and the motor with fans preassembled, thus the increase." I'm sure the actual price is closer to $350-$375 and the dealer has his markup. I don't care. The stoves go for about $3400 new and the cost to keep them running has become incredible.
Gumby1 telling you what he did tells me he hasn't dealt with the company in years, if ever. I'm sure you now know they don't sell parts direct. IMHO, they overcharge you through a dealer.
Gumby1 telling you what he did tells me he hasn't dealt with the company in years, if ever. I'm sure you now know they don't sell parts direct. IMHO, they overcharge you through a dealer.
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Usually the speed problem is brushes. Noisy ringing or singing sounds the come and go are usually bearings. You may only need brushes. They are easy to replace, on the motor once you get to it, but does require tipping the stove forward. See instructions here:
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I have also rebuilt the motor with new brushes and bearings and that is described on this forum. You can get the bearings at a local store or on ebay. Here is the link to the rebuild instructions I created:
https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/new-to-forum-thelin-parlor-pellet-input.100205/#post-1281147
I'd really like to hear from someone on a source for the Pittman motor that is in these machines. Mine has a:
Pittman
# 14203C708-R6
12 VDC
12-02-10
Dyn Balanced
Ametek Technical & Industrial Products
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I have also rebuilt the motor with new brushes and bearings and that is described on this forum. You can get the bearings at a local store or on ebay. Here is the link to the rebuild instructions I created:
https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/new-to-forum-thelin-parlor-pellet-input.100205/#post-1281147
I'd really like to hear from someone on a source for the Pittman motor that is in these machines. Mine has a:
Pittman
# 14203C708-R6
12 VDC
12-02-10
Dyn Balanced
Ametek Technical & Industrial Products
Mt Bob
Minister of Fire
I was looking at this picture on ebay and it looks like they have redesigned the type of motor on the new fan assembly. Does anyone have a manufacturer and model on the new motor? I'm not looking forward to paying $500 for a replacement fan that has a $100 motor and about $40 worth of sheetmetal. The parts prices on Thelin are crazy now. I'd like to go to this new motor. I wonder if it is brushless, almost looks like it.
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General comment on Thelin parts. Since the sale of Thelin in 2010 or later, I don't recall the year, the parts prices have more than doubled and it's harder to find them. With production ending in July 2014, I have a hard time thinking this will get better. In my opinion the parts are more than double what they are worth on a retail basis. Our thelin stoves will get older and need more parts. On cars and other things I work on when this situation happens sometimes a third party starts to make replacement parts at more reasonable prices. We can hope.
Mt Bob
Minister of Fire
It has brushes.Thelin has promised service and parts for some time after,so would not look for it to get better.
Mt Bob
Minister of Fire
Nope,closely guarded secret.90% sure it is a pittman.Looks like one of their 1402 series,but dual shaft.I would call easyfire,they might be more forthcoming.Or measure everything,includind shafts,mounting holes,and if you know rpm,go to one of the makers(there are several in usa for dc gearmotors)and match up.I wanted a thelin,but as a project,as I would convert it to 110v.
I like your idea and really appreciate the tip on the motor number. I chose thelin mainly for the 12V capability. I have lots of power outages and this works great on 12V. I have run 2 or 3 days on a marine battery before power returned.
I have run this stove as primary heat for about 8 seasons now at about 2.5 - 3 tons per year. My only problem has been that the blower motor bearings and brushes seem to only last about 2 years. Also have had to replace the ignitor once.
I'm going to work on a generic number for the ignitor next time. Should be easy to decode the dimensions and power and source it generically.
My firepot is cracked up now too. Need another one of those. I see the new model is different here as well with a cast iron pot and the ignitor on the side.
I won't pay the prices they are asking. I'll be making and sourcing my own parts.
There were several thelins on craigslist in Northern California recently when I looked.
I have run this stove as primary heat for about 8 seasons now at about 2.5 - 3 tons per year. My only problem has been that the blower motor bearings and brushes seem to only last about 2 years. Also have had to replace the ignitor once.
I'm going to work on a generic number for the ignitor next time. Should be easy to decode the dimensions and power and source it generically.
My firepot is cracked up now too. Need another one of those. I see the new model is different here as well with a cast iron pot and the ignitor on the side.
I won't pay the prices they are asking. I'll be making and sourcing my own parts.
There were several thelins on craigslist in Northern California recently when I looked.
Looks to me like they went to China for this motor. Looks alot like an Exmek motor. Should retail in the USA under $100.
This may be a lower cost alternative. It looks similar to the thelin blower motor assembly
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It is the easyfire 10475
Also aviailable here:
http://www.bbqsandfireplaces.com/pelletstoves.htm
Since the easyfire and the thelin are the same part on the ebay site above perhaps these are the older pittman motor style without the resistors and may be the same. More reasonable pricing here around $200 +/- $25 or so.
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It is the easyfire 10475
Also aviailable here:
http://www.bbqsandfireplaces.com/pelletstoves.htm
Since the easyfire and the thelin are the same part on the ebay site above perhaps these are the older pittman motor style without the resistors and may be the same. More reasonable pricing here around $200 +/- $25 or so.
Just as an FYI... going from a brush to brushless would require a complete control overhaul.
Has anyone tried above motor on the Thelin Parlor Pellet? This will be my 3rd fan motor. I did find a site that had the Thelin fan assembly for $330.00, but still a high price tag. They sell the easy fire motor for a little over $100....but I am not sure it will work in the Thelin. Tried calling Easyfire, can't get through. Thanks.
Thanks.
Yes they do look indentical, but I would hate to pay over $200 for this and have it not work properly. Thats why I was wondering if anyone has tried one of them? I contacted the fella on ebay, but he was not sure if it was the same part (Sierra products part # 10475) as his. The ebay ad does say fits all Easy Fire and Thelin. The part numbers are different (but this could just be a product labeling).
There is also a person selling older style pitman motors on ebay for $25. But they are 30V DC, so you would only get about 1250 rpms at 12 V.
Thenlin
And then thelin increases there prices on parts , in order to hose there buyers , that kept them in business..Just before Jay left he sold me a new combustion motor for 99.00..
Same here. Jay sold the first fan assembly to me for $125 or so (maybe it was $140), now look? I also emailed the Pitman company and they said they had no close replacement, and that it was a special motor only for Thelin. Another money racket.
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Anyone look at the fan combo from an Avent stove? Last I looked the parts were very cheap. Magnum stoves from Hutchinson,MN
