Flue HELP stove install

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Jstima37

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Mar 19, 2018
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Chicago IL
I'm still working on figuring out where to install a wood stove in house based on what I can do and I need your guys help trying to figure it out. Thanks in advance! I attached some picks with this thread that might help.

So I have one flue that to my knowledge is free and does not have anything venting into it. My middle Flue is for my gas see through fireplace ( can't get an insert it's see through ) and the other flue has hot water heater venting through it ( could get a power vent hot water heater but i just installed that hot water heater and don't want to drop another $800). So I climbed on my roof and found rocks in this flue about 3 feet down. I cleared the rocks using a shop vac. After I cleared the rocks I found concrete. I hammer drilled the concrete out. After that there was bricks. I busted out some of the bricks. I gave up because i'm not sure how far down the bricks go. I did some research and found out this could be a fake / dummy flue to make the house look like it has more burners. The weird thing is though the clay tile continues to go down and when people put a dummy flue in it is usually just at the top. I'm about 6 FT down and i'm still in the clay tile busting out bricks inside the clay tile. I don't want to damage anything. So with that I have a few questions.

1. Should I stop busting out the brick inside the clay tile will i damage something structural?
2. If it is a fake flue if it get's me inside the chimney cavity can't i just put in a pipe anyway even if it doesn't have clay tile all the way down?


THANKS for your help!
 

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Clay tiles are not a structural part of the chimney. Many older chimneys don't have them, and some newer ones have broken them out to install a stainless liners and insulation. Yours is what is called a 12 x 12 clay tile, 10 x 10 inside.
That is large to install a liner and insulation it you are looking to install a stove. As long as this is still part of the chimney I would continue on, and see where it leads.
 
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Thanks for advise so far! Can't do it without you guys. So I went a little further and here is what I got. The orange clay flue ended and now there is a black type of material that seems like a different material than the orange clay flue. Some of it broke apart on the side when I tapped it with a screw driver. I'm hoping I can put a round pipe or liner down to the basement still and hook it up to a wood stove. What do you guys think now? I definitely don't want to hurt anything structural. Below is another pick of the progress I made since my last post.
 

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There could be something like that in the walls. On the original post I posted what it looks like in the basement blocks or cinder type blocks. They all look very intact like they have never been disturbed before so I don't really think there was ever a stove or something hidden in the walls.
 
It appears that someone spent a lot of time placing the stones exactly where they wanted them, to close off and fill the flue. It looks like the clay tiles are ending and you now have a cement or block flue. I do not see the black material that you referred to. Still looks like a liner and insulation should work.
 
Note that this appears to be a relatively short chimney. If the final height is <15' some stoves will perform poorly and that is before 90º turns are added.