I have been thinking about upgrading to a PE Summit insert. My question is the site lists log length 18-20" max. Is that accurate for one, and two, what is the e/w length and n/s length?
Thanks
Eric
Thanks
Eric
For those with PE Summit inserts...a question
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Hogwildz
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16" to 18" is optimal for me N toS . You want to keep at least 2 or 3" away from the glass to keep it clean. Otherwise load it up and let er burn.
Also I have a few other questions for you to answer if you don't mind.
Any problems with the baffle warping? Is ti built to last?
Any problems cracked welds others have reported?
What size house do you heat with your summit? I am looking to heat about 2400 sq ft, two floors.
Any problems with the baffle warping? Is ti built to last?
Any problems cracked welds others have reported?
What size house do you heat with your summit? I am looking to heat about 2400 sq ft, two floors.
We're going on season 4 with our T6, same baffle and it still looks good. It would take some consistent overfiring to warp it and is definitely made to last. Over time it may sag a little, but that doesn't affect performance. I just checked ours and I would estimate there is maybe 1/8" sag in the middle. It's a great design, easy to clean and tough.
Here's what I have been able to find out about the cracks. There were some minor cracks by the door that were in the older design of the stove that showed up in some inserts when the stove was pushed hard. PE has tested a returned cracked stove extensively by overfiring it 24/7 for over a year. So far, the cracks have not grown and have not affected the stove performance. Out of many thousands of units sold the total number of reports on this issue to PE is less than 50. PE has indicated that they redesigned this area of the insert to eliminate the issue. I haven't had a chance to see a newer Summit to photograph the change, but it's on my (near endless) to do list.
Here's what I have been able to find out about the cracks. There were some minor cracks by the door that were in the older design of the stove that showed up in some inserts when the stove was pushed hard. PE has tested a returned cracked stove extensively by overfiring it 24/7 for over a year. So far, the cracks have not grown and have not affected the stove performance. Out of many thousands of units sold the total number of reports on this issue to PE is less than 50. PE has indicated that they redesigned this area of the insert to eliminate the issue. I haven't had a chance to see a newer Summit to photograph the change, but it's on my (near endless) to do list.
Thanks begreen. Does the baffle seal against something? It looks like the air comes in through the baffle, rather than tubes. I was wondering if warping would ever cause a bad seal.
madison
Minister of Fire
The baffle rests on rails , and there is an "inlet" on the rear of the stove for the baffle's secondary air, sealed with a (replaceable) gasket. A pin holds the entire baffle in place
thechimneysweep
Minister of Fire
Begreen, as always you're in the know. I have looked into this issue myself, and what you say about the benign nature of the cracks is correct (except the stove in question has been in the torture chamber for far longer than one year). What I'd like to add is, every single one of the reported cracked stoves has shown other signs of repeated overfiring. It occurs to me that this thread is being hijacked, so I'm going to start a new thread about this issue.
The baffle on the summit is probably the most rugged, on the market.
Very heavy, I don't believe you could hurt it even if you tried.
Very heavy, I don't believe you could hurt it even if you tried.
This is all good information, the more the better. I like getting down into the nitty gritty of any possible purchase.
iceman
Minister of Fire
eric,
for the life of i couldnt get my cpu to type.
i love my summit! however, i must admit mine is one that has cracks. PE had them fixed last year and they are back. take it for what its worth, it seems to be something specific to certain model years so you might be safe.
for the life of i couldnt get my cpu to type.
i love my summit! however, i must admit mine is one that has cracks. PE had them fixed last year and they are back. take it for what its worth, it seems to be something specific to certain model years so you might be safe.
Hogwildz
Minister of Fire
As the dealer has pointed out Ice, every single one of us has repeatedly overfired out stoves, that word must be gospel, and we are all wrong and run our inserts like crap.
Yet there was research done on it, and now they have a new design that solved the problem "we" caused by repeatedly overfiring our stove that have crap for control to start with.
My blood is overfiring with every BS word that is getting flung around here.
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