Found some doors.
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russ1
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![[Hearth.com] Found some doors.](https://www.hearth.com/talk/data/attachments/125/125206-fea5140552707aad3a8f0088168d6c54.jpg?hash=avxcPLhUYV "[Hearth.com] Found some doors.")
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I am trying to find a replacement door for a PaPa Bear stove as in the picture. Is the door in the top row far left from a PaPa Bear (attachment 124716)?
I don't care about the logo just the fit.
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That one is a flat top. yours appears to be a arch top or cathedral Yours uses both mama and papa bear doors are the same. I already picked up all the fisher doors in the bins that I could get at. I'll have a look and see if I have one. I'm going to pick the rest up asap. But they're major snowed in. Oops My bad. The attachment you posted is a baby bear door. The one I eluded to is a papa or mama
russ1
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Will the flat top door work if mine is arched? I don't care about the arch, just as long as it closes and works.Mama or papa fits either one.![[Hearth.com] Found some doors.](https://www.hearth.com/talk/data/attachments/124/124717-bd48d5c3f0e18a034eacc8703029dbe9.jpg "[Hearth.com] Found some doors.")
I would defer to coaly on this. If I venture a guess No not without modifying the door seal on the firebox. Two seals were used round channel and square. I dont know if the arch top lines up with the box channel. Or if they're the same type. My guess is no based on age theyre probably different. I dont know specifically when they changed the seal. I do think however that it's possible.
russ1
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Here are a couple of inside shots. I'll post a picture of the stove opening later. Sorry about the angle I couldn't get the pictures rotated.
![[Hearth.com] Found some doors.](https://www.hearth.com/talk/data/attachments/125/125228-79627fbdcc7dfdaf99007f927a6ed9f4.jpg?hash=umZ997oHXE "[Hearth.com] Found some doors.")
![[Hearth.com] Found some doors.](https://www.hearth.com/talk/data/attachments/125/125229-4e26d8715d1eadb9065c5bae0c83b98a.jpg?hash=_8xtonkPCA "[Hearth.com] Found some doors.")
I'm wondering if the knock off doors would fit. If The old timer or timberline doors would line up. If so I can get them. At least you could use your stove until the real deal comes along.
russ1
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Nothing wrong with that one. I am doing an experiment which involves a door modification. I just need one that will fit doesn't need to be pretty.
You will not be able to just change doors. They were made at different foundries, and the hinge plates are welded in place for each door. As many stoves as I have, none will interchange and work correctly. Whenever a door on a Fisher is changed, you need to lay the stove on it's back, remove the hinge plates, center door on seal and tack hinge plates in place. Try door, and weld hinge plates fully.
Double door hinge tabs have a different spacing than flat top. I'm sure it's the same with single doors, but never tried it. The cut out and door seal is the same, only a matter of hinge spacing.
The arch top is just a rounded cover at the top that doesn't affect the seal. Notice straight horizontal seal area across top;
![[Hearth.com] Found some doors.](https://www.hearth.com/talk/data/attachments/125/125240-7f170387b74add5f5e04f9f7940f1891.jpg?hash=wvvUe-VnxI "[Hearth.com] Found some doors.")
Double door hinge tabs have a different spacing than flat top. I'm sure it's the same with single doors, but never tried it. The cut out and door seal is the same, only a matter of hinge spacing.
The arch top is just a rounded cover at the top that doesn't affect the seal. Notice straight horizontal seal area across top;
russ1
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Thanks coaly.
I was going to reverse engineer one from scratch and thought I would look for a used door. I guess I will make one.
Will plate steel work or is cast the only way to go? I don't know the history on what Fisher used for material and thickness in the beginning when he made his first stoves solo. Do you know those details?
I was going to reverse engineer one from scratch and thought I would look for a used door. I guess I will make one.
Will plate steel work or is cast the only way to go? I don't know the history on what Fisher used for material and thickness in the beginning when he made his first stoves solo. Do you know those details?
1/4" mild steel. If you remove the channel iron on stove face and put it on the door it will prevent it from warping, but I don't think it's a problem if you don't. I would use 5/15 or thicker if used flat with nothing to prevent distortion.
There is a recent thread of a stove that is believed to be a stove made by a welder that probably took pieces home one at a time and constructed his own. Doors were guarded, so one was made for it and pictured there.
All roads lead back to Todd.
https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/baby-bear.121235/
There is a recent thread of a stove that is believed to be a stove made by a welder that probably took pieces home one at a time and constructed his own. Doors were guarded, so one was made for it and pictured there.
All roads lead back to Todd.
https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/baby-bear.121235/
russ1
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HA!...see post 32...he pointed me to you.
It might be easier to get a used door and cut off the hinges and engineer some adjustable ones, tap the door, and mount them to the door.
WeldrDave
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I have 4 flat tops and 4 round top baby bear doors. I can get some old timers as well. both left and right side. I a few Home Heat doors but one is spoken for.
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