Full Box.

[ironworker]

All i could fit in without really tinkering.Those darned 2ndaries tapered in the back sure hinder.18" straight in and without the andirons i didn't dare try to stuff the front E/W,not sure i could have.Had a few inches of coals underneath.I have wondered also about having to start the coaling stage or just what has to be done before i can go to bed having loaded a stove to the gills and not having the 2ndaries at fullt tilt or should i fire em off good and then head to bed?

Next time you are home with nothing to do for a few hours, stuff your stove like you would do during your overnite and observe what happens.

 

[ecocavalier02]

Here is a typical load in my BK Princess Insert. On the bottom there are 2 layers placed E/W. All but 2 pieces fit today, I can usually get the whole milk crate full in. There is 2-3" of ash/coals/nails in the stove. I'll reload in 10-12 hours running the thermostat at 2.5 dots (Insert has dots, not numbers), fan at 50%. The stovetop will be around 400 degrees most of the burn.

if that was any other stove, i'd be scared to death. gotta love the control of the bk.

 

[SolarAndWood]

Full loads vary depending on the weather for me.

 

[Bub381]

Best way i guess.Thanks Ironworker.Back to the thread.

 

[PapaDave]

Ok, now, everybody measure side to side, front to back, and top to bottom of the wood that's in your firebox. Post those dimensions.
As Gomer would say, "surprise, surprise, surprise!".
I think it would lay to rest the questions about firebox sizes.
Sorry if this is a highjack, but it seemed the perfect opportunity.

 

[SolarAndWood]

Ok, now, everybody measure side to side, front to back, and top to bottom of the wood that's in your firebox. Post those dimensions.
As Gomer would say, "surprise, surprise, surprise!".
I think it would lay to rest the questions about firebox sizes.
Sorry if this is a highjack, but it seemed the perfect opportunity.

24 min wide x 18 min deep x 15 high. I call it 3.75 as opposed to the advertised 4.3.

 

[PapaDave]

Thanks S&W. Still almost twice the size of my Ashley. Uh, usable size. :coolsmile:

 

[rdust]

Ok, now, everybody measure side to side, front to back, and top to bottom of the wood that's in your firebox. Post those dimensions.
As Gomer would say, "surprise, surprise, surprise!".
I think it would lay to rest the questions about firebox sizes.
Sorry if this is a highjack, but it seemed the perfect opportunity.

BK lists the Princess at 2.8 cf, I think there is more usable space than that though. The stove only has bricks on the lower layer so the bottom is smaller than above the bricks. The lower layer has 18†n/s, 21†e/w and height up to the cat enclosure is right around 12 1/2â€. Once you get above the bricks you gain about another 2†n/s and a little e/w but the sides angle in some as they come up, you also have another inch or so on height on the sides of the cat enclosure if you want to get crazy filling all the spaces. You can’t fit 18†pieces n/s in the first layer due to the tabs that hold the top of the bricks but 17†works fine.(17 1/2 is about perfect) I have a lot of wood that I cut to 18†for my Lopi Endeavor so I use those after I get above the bricks with shorter pieces or toss them in e/w.

I think the Princess would work out great for you but I'm a BK owner so I'm biased. :lol:

 

[kgrant]

My pieces are all around 18" long. A milk crate is 12"x12". So I can barely fit 1.5 cubic feet of wood in my firebox. The floor of my stove is warped, so I put 1" of sand under the bricks to level it out. I am loosing some capacity there. If I had a few inches of coals in the bottom, I'm losing say 5" of depth, which is about 1 cubic foot. So I could fit 2.5 cubic feet then. I would have a hard time fitting 2.8 cubic feet in my insert. Does the insert have a smaller firebox than the free standing?

 

[rdust]

Does the insert have a smaller firebox than the free standing?

No, I believe they're the same.

 

[Kevin*]

Time for a reload.


Packed with Hemlock

 

[Hogwildz]

Last night's load. Had 400 degree temp at 13 hours. Hit about 5 degrees last night. Season 6 with the Summit and getting better every year. Well I suppose I am improving.

 

[jetmech]

Hogz i like the dual thermos, looks like rpm and speedo ......

 

[James02]

Last night's load. Had 400 degree temp at 13 hours. Hit about 5 degrees last night. Season 6 with the Summit and getting better every year. Well I suppose I am improving.

PLEASE tell me how you got 13 hrs off the Vista!

 

[Osburning]

That's an impressive 13 hr temp. What was your peak temp and what's the usable cuft in that summit.

 

[Hogwildz]

Last night's load. Had 400 degree temp at 13 hours. Hit about 5 degrees last night. Season 6 with the Summit and getting better every year. Well I suppose I am improving.

PLEASE tell me how you got 13 hrs off the Vista!

Not a Vista, It is the Summit.
The usable firebox, I have never measured. I do load her up to the bottom of the baffle usually for overnight.
Lately been full loads all White Oak. The larger the pcs and the tighter you pack it, the longer the burn.
Peak temp is usually about 750 while the nasties are burning off. Sometimes lower if really large pcs. But on a full load with little air space, it will slowly work its way to that.
Usually settles in at about 600 or 650ish. then spends a few hours at each plateau on the way down.
For my system, it is truly what wood, the size and how tightly you pack it, that affects temp rise & fall, and length of burn time.

I find the two thermos helpful in a few things. To monitor temps on both sides, they also tell me that they are fairly accurate as they end up at the same temps when everything is steadied. And does sort of balance the look out.

 

[oldspark]

Hog-if my summit worked like yours I would be dancing in the street.

 

[Hogwildz]

Hog-if my summit worked like yours I would be dancing in the street.

Spark, I consider myself very fortunate with the setup I have. Granted I have a 27' tall liner, so this puppy drafts extremely well. Plus the rigid double wall insulated helps a lot I am sure.
I had similar issues as you my first year, but admittedly, my wood was not very well seasoned. Not saying that is your case, but was mine.
Into the 6th season with her, and I am still perfecting how I burn. The stove is teaching me well, and I am learning each year. So far, went from 3 loads a day, down to 2. Learned patience, which is hard for me. And also drier wood for me, doesn't lead to a 1/2 firebox full of coals. I if I need a load in between I put all the coals in a straight line in the center front to back, and put a load of soft wood, pine lately on the sides and top of the row of coals. Burns hot, and by the time the pine is down, so are the coals in the center. Wide open floorplan of the house helps distribute very well also. I am lucky and count my blessings.

 

[AndrewInCT]

Anybody with a jotul 450 have pics of their full box?

 

[James02]

Not a Vista, It is the Summit.
The usable firebox, I have never measured. I do load her up to the bottom of the baffle usually for overnight.
Lately been full loads all White Oak. The larger the pcs and the tighter you pack it, the longer the burn.
Peak temp is usually about 750 while the nasties are burning off. Sometimes lower if really large pcs. But on a full load with little air space, it will slowly work its way to that.
Usually settles in at about 600 or 650ish. then spends a few hours at each plateau on the way down.
For my system, it is truly what wood, the size and how tightly you pack it, that affects temp rise & fall, and length of burn time.

I find the two thermos helpful in a few things. To monitor temps on both sides, they also tell me that they are fairly accurate as they end up at the same temps when everything is steadied. And does sort of balance the look out.[/quote]

Not sure why I thought you had a Vista, when it clearly states Summit in your signature....DUMB!...When going for overnight burns, do you need flames or not? What are you looking for...Do you just load on coals and close it up? I'm barely getting a few hrs, but I hope I am doing it wrong. Sorry to hijack the thread....

 

[begreen]

Last night's load. Had 400 degree temp at 13 hours. Hit about 5 degrees last night. Season 6 with the Summit and getting better every year. Well I suppose I am improving.

I'll take what he's having.

PS: C'mon hog, we all know you have some of that glowing fuel you picked up down the road a bit. What are the radiation levels on that stove? LOL

 

[rdust]

Last night's load. Had 400 degree temp at 13 hours. Hit about 5 degrees last night. Season 6 with the Summit and getting better every year. Well I suppose I am improving.

Great burn times! I still want to burn a Summit at some point in my life, would you like to swap stoves for a season? :lol: Maybe the ones who are addicted to burning different stoves could work on a stove swap program between members. I think I'm on to something! :lol:

 

[certified106]

Last night's load. Had 400 degree temp at 13 hours. Hit about 5 degrees last night. Season 6 with the Summit and getting better every year. Well I suppose I am improving.

Great burn times! I still want to burn a Summit at some point in my life, would you like to swap stoves for a season? :lol: Maybe the ones who are addicted to burning different stoves could work on a stove swap program between members. I think I'm on to something! :lol:

LOL, If you weren't so far away and my stove wasn't so hard to get out of my house I would take you up on that for a month but ten buck says you would want it back sooner :lol: ! I looked at the princess when purchasing my T6 and would love to run one sometime but for the size of my house I run the stove pretty hard most of the time and my Dutchwest had trouble keeping up so I wanted to try one with a *higher* (take claim from the mfg with a grain of salt) btu output. So far it has worked out pretty well. I was actually concerned buying the T6 after hearing everyone talk about how uncontrollable secondary combustion was.

 

[neumsky]

I think this picture was an experiment when I tried coals on the right instead of front. It seemed to me that side of my stove took off quicker, even though it is opposite latch side, so I thought I would "cigar" burn from right to left. Think it got me about the same results as coals in front.

That's a beautiful stove...

 

[WoodpileOCD]

Last night's load. Had 400 degree temp at 13 hours. Hit about 5 degrees last night. Season 6 with the Summit and getting better every year. Well I suppose I am improving.

Great burn times! I still want to burn a Summit at some point in my life, would you like to swap stoves for a season? :lol: Maybe the ones who are addicted to burning different stoves could work on a stove swap program between members. I think I'm on to something! :lol:

Yea, kinda like a student exchange program except the students stay in place and we just exchange learning materials. I'll pass for another year while I continue to learn my new to me Buck.