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[nwomatt]

Moved my tanks into place today by myself. Easy peazy lemon squeazy. Thanks to the wheels my neighbour made for me. Will put them on the boiler once I raise the tanks into position. A bit of piping and hopefully be heating gas style. With wood. Simple wheels pipe flanges and beam clamps. Please let me know if you see any obvious mistakes. Will be posting pictures frequently as I get closer and closer.

 

[Clarkbug]

Looks good! When you are piping it all up, make sure you have a provision to purge the air out of it.

 

[Coal Reaper]

nice copper work!
how will you be managing injecting and pulling the hot water from storage tanks and stratification? will you have ports in the top of each tank? if left as is (and you may just be doing this for setup now) wont they thermosiphon the hottest water to the top tank? yet you will be feeding/returning from both? correct me if my thoughts are not in line...

 

[nwomatt]

There is more pipes to come. Two 1-1/4 from top of tanks teed into boiler supply and loads. I have a air bleeder thingy to put in an air scoop also.

 

[maple1]

Didn't pick that up first time I looked (the pipes) - looks like these are being run parallel & not series? Usually the bottom of the top tank would get plumbed directly to the top of the bottom tank to make it kinda all one tank (in series), then boiler in/load out at top of top, and out to boiler/back from load at bottom of bottom.

Some do return high temp emmitter return to the middle of storage also though.

But pictures can be deceiving...

 

[nwomatt]

I was told to do boiler return bottom of both tanks teed one side. Load returns bottom of tanks teed other side. And then the tank supply top of both teed with the loads coming off of that also. There will be balancing valves on each side of the tee on the tank supply. It makes sense to me and hopefully works. The guy I bought it from is directing me. He has done some the same way.

 

[Coal Reaper]

unless i am missing something, what you are describing works great for tanks side-by-side (as i did). stacked, not so much. as maple said, ussually when they are stacked one tank feeds into the other with supply/load at top of upper tanks and return at bottom of lower tank.

 

[henfruit]

nwomatt, That will work fine. That is how I have mine.

 

[Coal Reaper]

Can you explain how this works? Or put up a diagram with all the plumbing?

 

[henfruit]

This is how i have mine plumbed.

 

[Coal Reaper]

Thats what i thought i was thinking. Pros and cons of this setup vs what i previosly described?

 

[henfruit]

It works great for me. They raise in temp. evenly and draw done the evenly.

 

[nwomatt]

 

[nwomatt]

House end pretty much complete. Now onto the shop.

 

[Coal Reaper]

looks very nice but im sorry i still dont understand plumbing storage in that manner.
henfruit, i see the valve to your top tank is half closed. did you have to play with this much to get it right?

 

[ewdudley]

looks very nice but im sorry i still dont understand plumbing storage in that manner.
henfruit, i see the valve to your top tank is half closed. did you have to play with this much to get it right?

Looked funny to me at first, but if you draw it out and work it through I think it may be as good or better even than top, bottom-to-top, bottom. Only one tank fills or draws at a time and the water doesn't have to flow from one tank to the other.

 

[henfruit]

The ball valves will balance the two tanks so that my temps are even.AS I type this my tanks are within 1 degree of each other.

 

[Coal Reaper]

Looked funny to me at first, but if you draw it out and work it through I think it may be as good or better even than top, bottom-to-top, bottom. Only one tank fills or draws at a time and the water doesn't have to flow from one tank to the other.

how does only one tank fill or draw at a time? why is it a disadvantage to flow one tank into another? yeah it works. flowing any volume of water to/from your storage "battery" in any manner will "work". i am asking why this might be better? it just seems like more plumbing to me and doesnt allow stratification to be used optimally. only trying to figure out what i missing to fully understand this setup.

 

[velvetfoot]

nwomatt, can you please say a little more how you moved the tanks into position and stacked? These are 500's?

 

[nwomatt]

The main part of my shop has 12' ceilings. I have a chain hoist which I used to pick the top one up then slid the bottom one under it. Set it down and welded together. My neighbour my me some makeshift wheels out of pipe flanges and beam clamps. They bolted on the four corners and away it went. Basically moved it myself with a pinch bar. Rolled nice.

 

[nwomatt]

500s yes

 

[velvetfoot]

Thanks

 

[velvetfoot]

I have an I beam in my basement. I wonder if that would support an empty 500 gal. tank?
I'll start another thread. Sorry for the diversion.

 

[Coal Reaper]

I have an I beam in my basement. I wonder if that would support an empty 500 gal. tank?
I'll start another thread. Sorry for the diversion.

dont do that

 

[velvetfoot]

okay.