Yup, and as I've said here before, I don't have a problem with it (as long as it makes sense in the big picture) just don't force it down our throats, especially when the technology is not mature, or even close. And anyone that doesn't see how this stuff is being forced on us (and their pockets lined in the process) needs to come up for a breath of fresh air.
All the games being played in DC that have oil/gas prices way up...DC pushing the manufactures to stop making ICE vehicles...?
Oil/gas prices are up world wide. Our prices are still cheaper than many other countries. Not sure how that can be blamed on DC. Oil and gas is a worl market because of that the pricing changes globally.
There is always someone getting their pockets lined….with everything, you’re right. The same most certainly should also be said about the fossil fuel industry.
But there is lots of science supporting the theory. I will agree it isn't proven completely by any means. But there is a whole lot more science supporting human influence on climate change than refuting it. Just because the climate changes naturally on its own doesn't mean humans can't have an effect.
It's all science, not religion. Just because you can't even be bothered to investigate doesn't mean there are no answers.
Oil and gas exploration are still heavily subsidized despite the massive profits oil and gas companies make.
I hear ya, I'm sure the whole world market thing does affect prices,..and yes, we historically have had cheaper prices than many places, (still do I'm sure) but when you have an administration that has openly declared war on oil, and then prices start going up almost literally to the day said administration takes office...pretty hard to call it pure coincidence IMO.
But how did that administration make prices spike at the same time at a similar rate across the world?
And pushing everyone to buy an EV when we don't even have the electrical infrastructure to support it yet is looking out for the country?
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Pushing for development isn't pushing everyone to buy them. People will only buy them if they make sense for their situation.
We still produce more oil than we use so I really don't understand that argument quite honestly. But that oil is still priced according to the world market. I will watch the video a bit later still working hereBegging OPEC for more oil, meanwhile you put your heel on the oil industry here is looking out for the country?
What about the world? Why is it better that the Saudis pump oil out of the ground, instead of us? I bet we do it in a more environmentally safe manner than anybody! If we are really so concerned about ole mother earth...
More so on the tread topic, here is an interesting video, if you'll watch it. I had a different interview of him in mind, (with more data/facts stated) but it seems to have been "disappeared" (imagine that
Everyone is not being pushed to buy an EV. EV production is still growing and demand far outstrips supply. The electrical infrastructure is in place, it's called the grid, and there is plenty of excess capacity overnight, when most people charge, at reduced pricing. I set my car to charge starting at 11PM when it's cheaper and there is less load on the grid. As the EV fleet grows more fast chargers will be built to support roadtrips and those who can't plug in at home. There was a time before electric ranges and ai rconditioning, as demand for those grew the grid grew as well.
What "heel" is being put on the oil industry? They still have tons of drill site leases sitting unused and our production is near all time highs.
We don't, we need to use fracking, Saudis still have access to easy oil without fracking.
He's not a climate scientist, he's a businessman with an agenda. Again, if you can't disprove the basic physics of green house gas molecules you don't have an argument.
First off panels usually don't just die, they slowly drop efficiency over time but still produce power. Warranties are for 25-30 years but the panels don't just stop working, they'll continue to work for another 10+ years. They are also mostly glass and aluminum and can be recycled https://werecyclesolar.com/
Ok I took a few mins and read the article. It contains no data and he makes claims that simply are not true. So I am not sure what it was supposed to show.And pushing everyone to buy an EV when we don't even have the electrical infrastructure to support it yet is looking out for the country?
Begging OPEC for more oil, meanwhile you put your heel on the oil industry here is looking out for the country?
What about the world? Why is it better that the Saudis pump oil out of the ground, instead of us? I bet we do it in a more environmentally safe manner than anybody! If we are really so concerned about ole mother earth...
More so on the tread topic, here is an interesting video, if you'll watch it. I had a different interview of him in mind, (with more data/facts stated) but it seems to have been "disappeared" (imagine that
Weather Channel founder blasts climate change
John Coleman calls the trend "fake" and slams Al Gore on "The Kelly File."www.foxnews.com
Yeah like I said that is not the vid I wanted...the other one had data...but it apparently went POOF...maybe it spontaneously combusted in the intense 2022 sun!
Yes because we've done the research and can back up our positions with sources and facts. I've been hearing arguments like yours for over 15 years now, always fact free and always unwilling to really look into the science. You're like the people in the early 1900's saying cars would never replace horses. Some people are afraid of change.
Certainly a large volcanic eruption could devastate our environment, but that's irrelevant. It's like saying a car accident could end your life so don't service your brakes or wear a seat belt. The idea is to reduce possible bad outcomes where we can.
If you choose not to believe in manmade climate change that's entirely up to you. But claiming that there is not science to support it just isn't accurate. After all the debating on this subject I have been involved with I have yet to see anyone produce actual scientific evidence refuting it. Just opinions and pointing out that the climate has always changed.Oh brother...I dunno why I even comment in these threads...there are many here who are much better debaters than me, and in my mind, there is a lot that is still up for debate! Bottom line, I am just not a believer in man made global warming, many here are. (anyone else see the irony of "tree huggers" being on a wood heat site?) Whatever we humans do or don't do for our energy needs is a gnat fart in a hurricane compared to what volcanoes and forest fires do to our climate...but apparently nobody has figured out how to make a buck, control the masses, or win an election off those problems yet.
Does the climate change? Yes. It gets warmer for a bit, then cooler for a bit. And has been that way since the beginning...and I'm sure all along the way some current day chicken little has been claiming the sky is falling...and yet, here we still are...only now chicken little has figured out how to get paid for all his doom n gloom...just follow the money/power!
Oh, and no I'm not sticking up for big oil...plenty of crooked deals made there too.
Yeah like I said that is not the vid I wanted...the other one had data...but it apparently went POOF...maybe it spontaneously combusted in the intense 2022 sun!
