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Ash, elm or hickory men?I got a pic of the top of tree guys. Couldn't zoom on the buds. I did notice some old nut shells around the tree covered by leaves. Hickory?
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Ash, elm or hickory men?I got a pic of the top of tree guys. Couldn't zoom on the buds. I did notice some old nut shells around the tree covered by leaves. Hickory?
Whats Ms? Minnesota?
Ash maybe...its hard for me to ID White Ash because I see Green Ash here. Green has very uniform fine fissures and ridges that form fine diamond patterns.
White is rougher but this tree seems to have a much larger pattern. But still fairly uniform. Elm is very similar but more uneven. the fissures wrap around limbs and change as the tree broadens. Ash is very uniform down the length of the trunk. Ash bark is much lighter than Elm.
In Minnesota it could be another species altogether. And that was really helpful...all that.
Im saying Ash for $10.00
Ash maybe...its hard for me to ID White Ash because I see Green Ash here. Green has very uniform fine fissures and ridges that form fine diamond patterns.
White is rougher but this tree seems to have a much larger pattern. But still fairly uniform. Elm is very similar but more uneven. the fissures wrap around limbs and change as the tree broadens. Ash is very uniform down the length of the trunk. Ash bark is much lighter than Elm.
In Minnesota it could be another species altogether. And that was really helpful...all that.
Im saying Ash for $10.00
Yellow bellied sap suckers love Elm and Hickory...lol. Its amazing they can even get thru the bark.
blazincajun
Burning Hunk
Twigs and leaf scars; also, look for the presence of hickory nut husks in the leaf and duff layer around the tree. Identify the topographic position on the landscape as well.
nrford
Minister of Fire
Elm doesnt have nuts. The crown is not Elm and the branches dont look opposite(ash).
The leaf scars on hickories look like monkey faces.
find some nut husks and take pics.
If this is the same tree from your other IDs I said Mockernut just because the bark in your photo seemed just a hair too dark for Ash.
The bark is very rough and very hard on hickory.
The leaf scars on hickories look like monkey faces.
find some nut husks and take pics.
If this is the same tree from your other IDs I said Mockernut just because the bark in your photo seemed just a hair too dark for Ash.
The bark is very rough and very hard on hickory.
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e="blazincajun, post: 1690704, member: 31981"]Twigs and leaf scars; also, look for the presence of hickory nut husks in the leaf and duff layer around the tree. Identify the topographic position on the landscape as well.[/quote]
Gotts
Will do. The bark on this is hard and rough just like you say. Most likely hickory then huh?
e="blazincajun, post: 1690704, member: 31981"]Twigs and leaf scars; also, look for the presence of hickory nut husks in the leaf and duff layer around the tree. Identify the topographic position on the landscape as well.[/quote]
Gotts
Will do. The bark on this is hard and rough just like you say. Most likely hickory then huh?
blazincajun
Burning Hunk
Twigs on hickories are usually thicker than elm twigs. Looks hickory to me.
All our opinions really are based on our own experience in the forest or dealing with local trees that are obviously accurately identified or other experiences. So the members here usually give an opinion based on the photos and short of being there we usually give our best opinion. Also, the same species will have minor physical differences (i.e., color, growth, height, bark texture, branching) based on site location - taxonomy uses a decision tree (keys). If you are really interested in learning your trees, see if you can get a taxonomy book, find the species you think the tree is and work backwards. As you encounter terms that you are unfamiliar with, these books usually have a glossary that will help you through the keys. This will usually ring some bells and help with your identification. Sometimes it only takes a simple description to confirm your tree. Local libraries usually have books on common trees in your state. Have fun.
All our opinions really are based on our own experience in the forest or dealing with local trees that are obviously accurately identified or other experiences. So the members here usually give an opinion based on the photos and short of being there we usually give our best opinion. Also, the same species will have minor physical differences (i.e., color, growth, height, bark texture, branching) based on site location - taxonomy uses a decision tree (keys). If you are really interested in learning your trees, see if you can get a taxonomy book, find the species you think the tree is and work backwards. As you encounter terms that you are unfamiliar with, these books usually have a glossary that will help you through the keys. This will usually ring some bells and help with your identification. Sometimes it only takes a simple description to confirm your tree. Local libraries usually have books on common trees in your state. Have fun.
If the branches are opposite then most likely ash. Look towards the end of the limbs as it is usually easier to see, although they don't look opposite to me from the picture.
blazincajun
Burning Hunk
Opposite twigs become opposite branches sometimes versus alternate branching. Look at any stem and if the leaves (not leaflets) are on opposite sides of the twig this is known as opposite branching. Otherwise, trees with leaves that alternate around a stem are known as alternate branching like hickory and elm. Opposites include dogwood, ash, viburnum, maple, buckeye, strawberry bush and privets.
I have Norway maples, Green Ash and Shagbark hickories in my back yard. I pass them every day on my way to the horsebarn.
I would take pictures for you to help with this but we are in the midst of another ice storm.
If you saw pictures you would think Oh..YEAH
Opposite twig growth on a limb mirrors or balances another. Usually always in pairs.
Alternate twig growth staggers along the limb, and is more random.
I would take pictures for you to help with this but we are in the midst of another ice storm.
If you saw pictures you would think Oh..YEAH
Opposite twig growth on a limb mirrors or balances another. Usually always in pairs.
Alternate twig growth staggers along the limb, and is more random.
That should
that should help out alot thanks
I have Norway maples, Green Ash and Shagbark hickories in my back yard. I pass them every day on my way to the horsebarn.
I would take pictures for you to help with this but we are in the midst of another ice storm.
If you saw pictures you would think Oh..YEAH
Opposite twig growth on a limb mirrors or balances another. Usually always in pairs.
Alternate twig growth staggers along the limb, and is more random.
that should help out alot thanks
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