Insert or possible free stand in corner setup

[brownclown]

Hi . New and 1st post. I am very new to most of this but have been non stop reader for past few weeks so please forgive my ignorance. I am having some trouble finding my setup and how to go best about handling it. I was told prior to my purchase of the house there was an insert that was removed. I currently have an unsafe woodstove installed that I planned only only using for emergency and for most part have only used a handful of times when I installed about 10 years ago. I say "unsafe" because of how i rigged up flue. I am currently tired of paying for crazy oil costs and want to setup correctly. I have an open floor plan upstairs with a living space of about 1000sq ft with less then ideal insulation. My masonry chimney is odd. I can't find examples of similar setups so dont really know what direction to take. I am open to using an insert but would prefer to use a free standing (without legs) I would guess. Unless something better is remmended. I think i want something similar to what I already have but done correctly.

Currently I have about a 10 ft section of single wall pipe ( I believe stove pipe) going up the flue until it hits a bend. I believe it is a 45 degree bend that then travels another foot too another 45 and then exits straight up (I need to investigate actual measurements this weekend, I only recall being perplexed why the flue has bends and why I can't extend my insert out all the way when I did this originally). I believe the whole flue is clay lined but need to confirm. I know the clay on the exit of chimney is 8 1/4" x 8 1/4" outer edge to edge . Would I be able to correctly run an insulated liner through the opening of that size with that size flue and it having what I believe are 2 45 degree bends? Any company or brands you would recommend for purchase? Is the smooth wall or single wall make a difference? Is this better purchased from a hearth store or is big box or online just as good. Im planning on self/friend diy. How big does a 6inch pipe end up by the time you wrap in insulation and cover with mesh? Provided I can actually reline the flue am I better with a stand alone stove or an insert . Im new to this but have yet to find an insert for a corner setup. My opening inside the 2inch corner bar has width of 32 1/2 inch x depth 22 1/2 (to end of brick is 23") x height 26 3/4 ". Any help would be appreciated. Thanks so much. This site has already helped a ton.

 

[begreen]

The current installation is illegal. Stove pipe is not allowed outside of the room envelope and not up a chimney. Insulation adds an inch to the outside diameter of the liner. There is pre-insulated DuraLiner at 6 5/8" OD but in this case, a flexible liner probably would be required.
The height is an issue for a freestanding stove. One option might be to put in an insert with no surround. The Drolet Escape 1800i is a popular model. The Regency 2450i might just fit and it can run on a 5.5" liner. The Drolet might also, but this would require an inquiry into Drolet support to verify in writing.

 

[brownclown]

The current installation is illegal. Stove pipe is not allowed outside of the room envelope and not up a chimney. Insulation adds an inch to the outside diameter of the liner. There is pre-insulated DuraLiner at 6 5/8" OD but in this case, a flexible liner probably would be required.
The height is an issue for a freestanding stove. One option might be to put in an insert with no surround. The Drolet Escape 1800i is a popular model. The Regency 2450i might just fit and it can run on a 5.5" liner. The Drolet might also, but this would require an inquiry into Drolet support to verify in writing.

Thank you. From coming here, i have learned it is illegal. Any idea of what might have gone in here originally? I just don't understand why it is on a corner edge like this. I will look into running an insert without a surround but cant imagine that would be very aesthetically pleasing for most models.

 

[EbS-P]

The insert might not look as bad as you think. Finding a stove under 26” will be tough. I have since wrapped rh liner with a piece of 8” stovepipe to conceal it better. The sides are just flat painted steel.

 

[brownclown]

The front view isn't so much of a concern. Yours looks very nice. I am worried about the side view most.

 

[brownclown]

I pulled the old out today. Scary that I considered that as an emergency option. I was pleasantly surprised to learn I have much more room to run an insulated liner then I thought . I thought the 8 inch clay was my wood flue but learned my fireplace is actually the 13 inch clay. I have no idea how this works . It is an optical illusion.

I spent day cleaning flue . How clean do I need to be if I am going to run a liner? I have scrubbed it for hours but there still some dark areas.

 

[brownclown]

Is this clean enough? I should of taken more pics from up top of the clay lined section

 

[begreen]

The front view isn't so much of a concern. Yours looks very nice. I am worried about the side view most.

A painted sheet metal panel could be put on the left side or some expanded or perforated metal.

 

[brownclown]

thank you. i have been going through old post and found one with peoples pictures of running inserts "naked" without shrouds/surrounds and they look great. I think open may actually be a good thing but as ponted out easy enough to cover.