Installer wants to wait until Spring to install?

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griz7674

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I elected to have my new Lopi Leyden wood burner installed by the dealer. I drove there today and bit the bullet. However, he stated he wants to wait until we have 50-60 degree weather to install due to the shingles. Ideally, I would like to have this installed sooner so that I can use it now vs next year. Is this typical to not want to install these in the winter or can it be done correctly right now (it's roughly 30 degree's today)? Thanks!

Bob
 
I would think as long as the installer can get on the roof or not have his life in his hands when doing the install he should do it. Or if you feel its safe to do, call others and get a feeling on what they have to say and if one says they would do it, then hire them.

What good is a stove or wood burning device when the temps are 50 out?

Shipper
 
i would find another source for the install.if you want it done (consumer) than the dealer (installer) should do it, no matter what. using the shingles as an excuse is pretty petty. if the installer knew what he was doing then the shingles would be his LAST worry. i see roof work done round year. shingles do expand with heat but he should compinsate for that at the time of the install.
 
What a sissy. Go someplace else.

As long as we can get where we need to on the roof without killing ourselves we find a way to get it done. One guy carries a torch and space heater he uses for heating whatever he needs to, to get the job done. We install year round and its been below 0F quite a bit this winter.
 
What type of roof is this? I could see waiting if this is a cedar shingled roof. They get pretty slippery when wet. But if this is a composition roof, then what's the problem? I've been up on my roof to check the flue cap in the last week. No big deal and I'm a geezer.
 
sound like they dont need the work????
 
griz7674 said:
I elected to have my new Lopi Leyden wood burner installed by the dealer. I drove there today and bit the bullet. However, he stated he wants to wait until we have 50-60 degree weather to install due to the shingles. Ideally, I would like to have this installed sooner so that I can use it now vs next year. Is this typical to not want to install these in the winter or can it be done correctly right now (it's roughly 30 degree's today)? Thanks!

Bob


How cold is it? is there snow on the roof?what pitch do you have.
 
It's your standard ranch home so I believe that would be a 4/12 pitch? As for shingles, these are your basic asphalt shingles. Nothing special.

Bob
 
griz7674 said:
It's your standard ranch home so I believe that would be a 4/12 pitch? As for shingles, these are your basic asphalt shingles. Nothing special.

Bob


They do break apart in very cold weather.is there snow up there?is there ice under the snow like i have?
 
We do have snow on the ground (3 inches or so) but no ice. That part of the roof is actually clear of snow etc.

Bob
 
Bob, do you have your wood put up already? How well seasoned is it?

It might be okay in your situation to wait if you don't have the wood yet. Get the wood before you get the stove! It isn't like buying gas or oil. You can't just cut a tree and expect the wood to burn. It needs time.
 
griz7674 said:
We do have snow on the ground (3 inches or so) but no ice. That part of the roof is actually clear of snow etc.

Bob


Bob how cold is it there?
 
I have multiple cords of split oak from about 5 years ago. We have a woodstove at our deer camp and no longer need it since we installed a propane furnace. As for temps, we have been in the 20's lately but it has warmed up to the 30's now.

Bob
 
I installed my chimney last winter when the temperature was -35F. I would not recommend doing that but I had it planned for a certain day, had everything prepped and ready and postponing would have created more expense and worry. I was concerned about the roof tar or whatever you call it sticking in those temperatures but it held fine until spring when I had to do some additional patching around the chimney flashing.
 
griz7674 said:
It's your standard ranch home so I believe that would be a 4/12 pitch? As for shingles, these are your basic asphalt shingles. Nothing special.

Bob

Sounds like an easy take to me....hummm
 
savageactor7 said:
griz7674 said:
It's your standard ranch home so I believe that would be a 4/12 pitch? As for shingles, these are your basic asphalt shingles. Nothing special.

Bob

Sounds like an easy take to me....hummm


Tar shingles break easy in the cold.they also have no traction when cold.
 
I recently had my stove installed.

Originally I went with the installer recommended by the dealer. However after months of waiting for the stove from the dealer, the installer put me dead last on his install list and my install was not going to happen till December (originally scheduled for July, rescheduled for October, rescheduled for November, rescheduled for December, all him).

Installer originally wanted to build a three bend pipe on the outside of the house. I wanted the stove installed dead center of the house to the side of my existing chimney. It required going up through a second floor and out the roof. Long story short, I watched him start drilling, realized the holes were in the wrong place for the existing clearances. And after starting the job he told me that he could not *finish * the job that day because they could not do the roof work in that weather ~25F. That he could get the pipe into the attic then come back in the Spring to finish the job. *and* that he did not have the ability to re-head the joist the pipe would need to run through so I would have to do that myself. By that time I was completely fed up and I set to explore other options.

A week later I had a independent mason come in, take a look. Guy scratched the pipe idea, proposed building a parallel masonry chimney through the entire house, re capping the existing chimney *and* a custom brick hearth to fit the stove (had a hearth pad originally). And the kicker: the second install was going to cost less than the install by the original sweep. The mason just sack'ed up dragged the snow off of the roof, and did the work. All the work. In less forgiving temperatures. No BS.

Long story short: If your installed seems to be half-assing it, perhaps he is, get some other people to take a look. I think if I went with the shop recommended installer I would have had a unsafe and poorer installation for more money. Just because the shop recommended the guy I went very far with him, against the bad feelings his work ethic was giving me. Going with an independent was the right choice: as of now I have a very happy stove.

Also, lurking these forums has been very helpful in being able to realize the incompetency of my original installer. Thanks!
 
tell him to quite bing a pansey and to put his broomball shoes on and get his ass up there .
 
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