Interesting installation

[smwilliamson]

Got to the job today, installing a USSC Harvester insert, oh no No hearth extension on a raised hearth. Hmmmm. Customer ordered the insert and while we try pretty hard to get all the info we need prior to quoting and showing up...things happen.

Basically it was a brick hearth with a granite slab in front flush to the floor. Mantle wouldn't have been high enough if there were a raised extension so I think that's why it was done this way. My employee was set to cancel the job but luckily called me first. I skipped over to Lowes while he dropped the liner and brought in the stove.

We removed the front leveling legs that were screwed in with 1/4-20 thread. I constructed two legs using 12" x 1/4-20 threaded rod inside of some 1/2" pipe fittings. Secured the rod with a threaded furniture tap that was super glued to a pipe anchor fitting. After we found out 10.5" height we turned a 1/2" coupling to snug it up and glued all the threads...painted it black and applied a sticky felt furniture disc underneath.

 

[BrotherBart]

And the inspector said....?

 

[fmsm]

Looks great Scott. Now you just need to fabricate a floor jack with a platform so that he can slide it out himself for cleaning.

 

[smwilliamson]

It was Saturday and it hasn't been inspected yet though I'm sure it will be fine....you got a problem with it?

 

[BrotherBart]

Putting legs on an insert, that isn't inserted. Yeah. But I don't have to sign off on it. And I ain't a pro. I just play one on the Internet.

 

[smwilliamson]

Putting legs on an insert, that isn't inserted. Yeah. But I don't have to sign off on it. And I ain't a pro. I just play one on the Internet.

No dude...it's inserted, just lacking support under the front

 

[tjnamtiw]

That is a very neat job, Scott. Good, quick thinking!

 

[SidecarFlip]

Works for me. I'm no expert, well, I am on corn burners but thats another chapter..... Kinda reminds me of some gals I knew in high school, skinny legs.........

 

[BrotherBart]

The manual specs half of that puppy inside the fireplace and bricks holding up the front. In that pic half ain't in there lately. And growing legs...

Don't have a dog in the fight. Just asked about inspection approval.

 

[velvetfoot]

granite > bricks
You have to lift the lid to pour in the pellets, right?

 

[smwilliamson]

The manual specs half of that puppy inside the fireplace and bricks holding up the front. In that pic half ain't in there lately. And growing legs...

Don't have a dog in the fight. Just asked about inspection approval.

Naw dude, half of that puppy is in the hole! Whatever is supposed to be anyway. It's kinda like the old Whitfield quest inserts with the support ledge. Besides... Where do you suppose the cat should lay out?

 

[smwilliamson]

granite > bricks
You have to lift the lid to pour in the pellets, right?

Yup

 

[smwilliamson]

It's got wheels too which are factory mounted in the rear

 

[BrotherBart]

Naw dude, half of that puppy is in the hole! Whatever is supposed to be anyway. It's kinda like the old Whitfield quest inserts with the support ledge. Besides... Where do you suppose the cat should lay out?

 

[SidecarFlip]

Truth be know (and not to start a war) but I would have neasured from the granite sill to the bottom corners of the insert (with it level) and plotted and cnc plasma cut a set of real legs with some substance.... those just look flismy to me.. Pulling it out is inviting disaster in my view, but then I don't do installs....maybe I should in as much as I own a fab shop. Would have probably delayed the install by a day (to get everything facricated and fit, but, sliding it out (for cleaning) would have no impact in structural integrity. While you have the vertical support, you have no traingular support so pulling the unit out is inviting a crumpled leg from what I see.....

Can't comment on how far in or out it should or should not be, I'll leave that to Bart.

 

[bcarton]

I'm not at all qualified to comment on the technical aspects, but it look sort of "Take me to your leader" in that photo...

 

[hossthehermit]

It was Saturday and it hasn't been inspected yet though I'm sure it will be fine....you got a problem with it?

I thought they were supposed to be inspected BEFORE ya burned 'em ....................... but, hey, what do I know ?

 

[IHATEPROPANE]

View attachment 146846 Got to the job today, installing a USSC Harvester insert, oh no No hearth extension on a raised hearth. Hmmmm. Customer ordered the insert and while we try pretty hard to get all the info we need prior to quoting and showing up...things happen.

Basically it was a brick hearth with a granite slab in front flush to the floor. Mantle wouldn't have been high enough if there were a raised extension so I think that's why it was done this way. My employee was set to cancel the job but luckily called me first. I skipped over to Lowes while he dropped the liner and brought in the stove.

We removed the front leveling legs that were screwed in with 1/4-20 thread. I constructed two legs using 12" x 1/4-20 threaded rod inside of some 1/2" pipe fittings. Secured the rod with a threaded furniture tap that was super glued to a pipe anchor fitting. After we found out 10.5" height we turned a 1/2" coupling to snug it up and glued all the threads...painted it black and applied a sticky felt furniture disc underneath.

My FIL stove is a very similar install......

 

[smwilliamson]

I thought they were supposed to be inspected BEFORE ya burned 'em ....................... but, hey, what do I know ?

If folks want to pay me to come back and start the stove so I can do all the adjustments, show them proper flame, set the draft etc...sure, let's wait for inspection and ratchet up the install costs.

 

[tjnamtiw]

Truth be know (and not to start a war) but I would have neasured from the granite sill to the bottom corners of the insert (with it level) and plotted and cnc plasma cut a set of real legs with some substance.... those just look flismy to me.. Pulling it out is inviting disaster in my view, but then I don't do installs....maybe I should in as much as I own a fab shop. Would have probably delayed the install by a day (to get everything facricated and fit, but, sliding it out (for cleaning) would have no impact in structural integrity. While you have the vertical support, you have no traingular support so pulling the unit out is inviting a crumpled leg from what I see.....

Can't comment on how far in or out it should or should not be, I'll leave that to Bart.

Actually, for long term use, plasma cut legs in a nice pattern welded 90 degrees to each other on each side would really dress it up AND add that rigidity it very well might need when pulled out.

 

[smwilliamson]

Actually, for long term use, plasma cut legs in a nice pattern welded 90 degrees to each other on each side would really dress it up AND add that rigidity it very well might need when pulled out.

Those legs I made are stiff and only supporting about 90 lbs

 

[smwilliamson]

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Truth be know (and not to start a war) but I would have neasured from the granite sill to the bottom corners of the insert (with it level) and plotted and cnc plasma cut a set of real legs with some substance.... those just look flismy to me.. Pulling it out is inviting disaster in my view, but then I don't do installs....maybe I should in as much as I own a fab shop. Would have probably delayed the install by a day (to get everything facricated and fit, but, sliding it out (for cleaning) would have no impact in structural integrity. While you have the vertical support, you have no traingular support so pulling the unit out is inviting a crumpled leg from what I see.....

Can't comment on how far in or out it should or should not be, I'll leave that to Bart.

Yeah, my plasma cutting CNC machine is down right now as well as my space shuttle...so I guess it's just a repair man and a truck with some skinny little legs.

 

[SidecarFlip]

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Yeah, my plasma cutting CNC machine is down right now as well as my space shuttle...so I guess it's just a repair man and a truck with some skinny little legs.

Tools come on a graduated scale, I started out with a gas axe and a buzz box years ago and bought machinery as the business grew. I'm lucky that someone in the family has a laser cutter so I can get intricate stainless parts lasered but the CNC plasma table cuts everything else. Not bad on the capital investment side, about 20 grand and it does some neat stuff.

You grow into the tools as the work warrants them and when you get them, you'll wonder how you got along without them.

Hope the inspector likes your handiwork. Inspectors can be a PITA.

 

[SidecarFlip]

Actually, for long term use, plasma cut legs in a nice pattern welded 90 degrees to each other on each side would really dress it up AND add that rigidity it very well might need when pulled out.

I can cut anything I can scan into the computer and/or use Solidworks to create something unique.

The only reason I suggested that was factoring in the human equation. Owners (humans) can bugger up anything so my credo is play it safe and overbuild it.