The flip flopper has made a move. The wife and I went down to the dealers warehouse today, a sea of soapstone in crates, and paid for our Mansfield. It was really hard to make a decision because both stoves seem like they would be great, I think it came down to a dealerthat was a little more flexable on price and a little more laid back in atitude combined with the inherant material advantages that soapstone delivers, that swung us to Hearthstone in the end. It's a mat black with no extras and will be delivered Saturday after next. We paid 2,200 + 150 tax + 100 delivery... I real good deal on the eve of the price hike. So now I have a stove and a 316 Ti flex liner kit. Still have to pick up the insulation wrap and steel blockoffs. Thanks again all for all the help to date... will be posting with more when the time comes.