Jotul vs Quadrafire

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mywaynow

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Went to a showroom and looked at possible stoves to replace the damaged Defiant. Looks like a Jotul Oslow or Quadra Fire 5700, with a Jotul F600 as an outside option. I like the 600 most of all listed choices, but the right door option may cause a problem. The Quad is a steel box, not cast iron. Is that good, bad or indifferent? The Oslo is left door and will take a 22 inch log, which is important. My stock of wood is cut up to 24 inches and I don't want to recut too much. I appreciate opinions on any of these stoves. Thanks
 
5700 is a 3.0 firebox if I remember correctly. Quite a bit bigger than the Oslo. The f600 is more comparable to the Quad in size and heat output. If your replacing the Defiant in your sig, then you want to go bigger than the Oslo.

If looks are very important, get the jotul. If you want a simple looking heat machine, get the quadrafire. Don't rule out other brands though. Lots of stuff out there in the 3.0 firebox range. Lopi Liberty takes 24 inch logs, but is an E/W burner only. Don't let the size of your splits determine what stove you buy though.
 
I am sitting on upwards of 40 cords of split wood, so I can't ignore the wood size. Plus, the unit needs a high output to serve the purpose, so longer logs means bigger box means higher output. I am surprised the Quad is coming in above the Oslo and Firelight in cost. Steel boxes are more expensive? I will look into the Liberty too. Thanks for the suggestion.
 
Just had the Jotul F600 installed last week and love it. Why would the right door (side door) pose a problem if any? I plan on using it all the time to load up. Can take up to a 24" split. To me thats awesome. Good luck will either one.
 
The F600 side door location wouldn't work for me either, so I went with the F500, WOW what a heater, glad I went that way the 600 would have been too much for my house.


Any way I am sure there are plenty of good stoves, Jotul is only modern stove I have dealt with and am very happy with it.
 
mywaynow said:
I am sitting on upwards of 40 cords of split wood, so I can't ignore the wood size. Plus, the unit needs a high output to serve the purpose, so longer logs means bigger box means higher output. I am surprised the Quad is coming in above the Oslo and Firelight in cost. Steel boxes are more expensive? I will look into the Liberty too. Thanks for the suggestion.
O.K. I wouldn't be chopping up 40 cords either. Are you replacing the Defiant? Does this have an 8in. flue? If so, how about a Blaze King King, Buck Model 91 or 94, or Country Flame. I'm really surprised the Quad is more expensive than the Jotul. Steel stoves are typically cheaper. Blaze King takes 23in. logs E/W. Buck takes 21.
 
mywaynow said:
Went to a showroom and looked at possible stoves to replace the damaged Defiant. Looks like a Jotul Oslow or Quadra Fire 5700, with a Jotul F600 as an outside option. I like the 600 most of all listed choices, but the right door option may cause a problem. The Quad is a steel box, not cast iron. Is that good, bad or indifferent? The Oslo is left door and will take a 22 inch log, which is important. My stock of wood is cut up to 24 inches and I don't want to recut too much. I appreciate opinions on any of these stoves. Thanks


I'm just throwing this out there again as a reminder; the Oslo puts out a lot less heat than the old Defiant. We have tons of threads on here with people complaining when they replaced there old pre-EPA stove with a new stove and think the new stoves are crap because they undersized their stove purchase way too much.

If this were my purchase, I would be going for a 3+ cu ft stove.
 
mywaynow said:
Went to a showroom and looked at possible stoves to replace the damaged Defiant. Looks like a Jotul Oslow or Quadra Fire 5700, with a Jotul F600 as an outside option. I like the 600 most of all listed choices, but the right door option may cause a problem. The Quad is a steel box, not cast iron. Is that good, bad or indifferent? The Oslo is left door and will take a 22 inch log, which is important. My stock of wood is cut up to 24 inches and I don't want to recut too much. I appreciate opinions on any of these stoves. Thanks

Quad makes a cast iron stove with a big firebox that accepts large woood. It's the Isle Royale. Not an inexpensive
stove, but a powerful heater.

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Agreed, I would be looking at an F600 or a Quad Isle Royale as a replacement for the Defiant. Both are excellent, radiant stoves with a good track record. The F600 is the simpler of the two, but if you like the option of top-loading, then the Isle Royale may be more appealing.
 
BrowningBAR said:
mywaynow said:
Went to a showroom and looked at possible stoves to replace the damaged Defiant. Looks like a Jotul Oslow or Quadra Fire 5700, with a Jotul F600 as an outside option. I like the 600 most of all listed choices, but the right door option may cause a problem. The Quad is a steel box, not cast iron. Is that good, bad or indifferent? The Oslo is left door and will take a 22 inch log, which is important. My stock of wood is cut up to 24 inches and I don't want to recut too much. I appreciate opinions on any of these stoves. Thanks


I'm just throwing this out there again as a reminder; the Oslo puts out a lot less heat than the old Defiant. We have tons of threads on here with people complaining when they replaced there old pre-EPA stove with a new stove and think the new stoves are crap because they undersized their stove purchase way too much.

If this were my purchase, I would be going for a 3+ cu ft stove.

+1 I agree with Brown on this one. I am an Oslo owner and I heat over 2,000 sqft. I now know that in pre- Jan/feb weather the stove does well without pushing it, when the nasty months show up I have to push the Oslo even harder to keep up stovetop temps and sometimes using the backup stove to supplement the heat on the first floor. Although it's a bit more work it does keep the house warm. However, had I purchased the F600 I may have avoided the additional work in the tough months because of the larger firebox. I'd go with the larger firebox on this thread, just because you can run the stove better with the bigger box than not having the space at all.
 
Myway, FYI I measured the inside of my Oslo. You could squeeze a 24" split e/w in there. I know you want room for air circulation but the widest part of the firebox e/w is almost 25" .
Just a thought. Good luck.
 
Shame the right side load will not work for you. I have only done the burnin fires in my new F600, but in just those small my new mistress was throwing some great heat. I cannot wait until I load up the 3.0 cuft.
 
That 600 has nice doors on the front don't get a stove too small :zip:
 
I am either replacing the Defiant or fixing it. That will depend upon whether or not there is funding to do so. The Defiant has been submerged and needs extensive time/material to repair. The handles are frozen on the doors, the seals are falling off and the entire stove needs to be broken down and cleaned. I have a quote of over 900 to do the job. For that reason, if there is reimbursement at that amount, I would allocate that funding toward a new stove instead of fixing the old one.

I can't use a right door if I position the new stove the way I had the Defiant staged. Pic shows the stove location. The wall to the left is a heat break between the stove compartment and the laundry room. There is also a short heat break wall between the stove and the door. The unit is turned 45 degrees to promote radiating off the front doors of the safe, in a direction that projects toward the heat's path of motion into the house. I could position the stove parallel to the wall and have access to the right hand door, but would be concerned the heat wouldn't move as well.
 

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mywaynow said:
I am either replacing the Defiant or fixing it. That will depend upon whether or not there is funding to do so. The Defiant has been submerged and needs extensive time/material to repair. The handles are frozen on the doors, the seals are falling off and the entire stove needs to be broken down and cleaned. I have a quote of over 900 to do the job. For that reason, if there is reimbursement at that amount, I would allocate that funding toward a new stove instead of fixing the old one.

I can't use a right door if I position the new stove the way I had the Defiant staged. Pic shows the stove location. The wall to the left is a heat break between the stove compartment and the laundry room. There is also a short heat break wall between the stove and the door. The unit is turned 45 degrees to promote radiating off the front doors of the safe, in a direction that projects toward the heat's path of motion into the house. I could position the stove parallel to the wall and have access to the right hand door, but would be concerned the heat wouldn't move as well.


Where in the Northeast are you. I could keep a look out on good used stoves within the $900 when I search around on CraigsList. I've bought all my stoves used that way.

And remember, if you need to replace it and budget is a real issue, you can get a new Englander sent to your front door for about $900. They're good stoves, just that not everyone is a fan of the looks of of the 30NC.
 
Just over the river from you BAR. I have a used Defiant in my sights if the new one falls through. Just missed one in Montgomeryville for under 200. I would not spend anywhere near the 900 on the old stove for a repair. If the unit must be reused, I will do the work and buy the parts. If I buy a new one, it will be a good one.
 
Great deals are out there--you just need to be patient and lucky.

Oh, and there are apps for smartphones and free services for your computer that track Craigslist for you and send you a text message when something you're looking for gets posted--and that's the key is to be the first one there!

2 years ago I bought a 2004 Jotul Oslo in excellent condition for $200. The house it was in was sold, and the new owner's wife said "get that smelly old woodstove out of here!" I was happy to oblige!

Just a week ago we found a 2005 Quadrafire Isle Royale for $150. It was in a guest house and not used a whole lot so it's in pretty good shape--though it's going to need $100-200 or so in parts and some free labor to get it up and going--but it's much better than spending thousands on one........


NP
 
NP if you get any more stoves you are going to have to open up a store. :lol: LOL
 
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