Just how available are Woodstock stoves

[Gunner]

I checked out the website and couldn't find a dealer in my area....infact there is only 1 dealer in all the world :lol:

Why are we recommending these stoves to people, with no local support?

What if my house is bigger than 1600sqft, am I out of luck? there is no stove in there lineup to heat more than 1600sqft.

$2714 US +tax+shipping for a Fireview and anyone outside the US would also have to pay duty+ brokerage fees at the border. After all that I would still have to drive to a shipping terminal to get the stove with some buddies(case of beer) because woodstock like to avoid residential shipping or charge another $165.



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[Todd]

OK, I'll bite.
Just look at the stove ratings info. It will answer all those questions.

 

[Gunner]

I know Todd, there are good stoves no doubt about it, even if the are alittle to "delicate" looking for my tastes

Just thought I'd throw alittle back....all in good fun. :coolsmile:

Plus I like to cut wood anyway

 

[Roospike]

LOL ..............I see a lot of back firing on "other threads" over this topic.

HEY! Why doesn't this brand X stove model come in 6 different shades of whorehouse red? Why only one shade !? Who's stove paint is thicker ? Who uses more screws ? Is PE's UL listing label printed with ink from the US or China ? .............com-mon :-S

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[elkimmeg]

Does PE have a 6 month money back garantee? One would think the best stove in the world would have the best warranty

Too late now and I was the Bruins Hockey game but Rebecca ( head of marketing at PE returned my call today too bad I missed it but I will follow up tomorrow
with a company profile including Vollume number of stoves made number of workers where they enamal whether they out source part of their manufacturing
N umber of stoves sold in USA stove sales in Canada Most companies have an about us part of their web pages but PE site is still under construction

If Roo wants to check it out the phone # is 205 748 1184 and ask for Rebecca I mean lets see what their market share is

 

[Roospike]

Does PE have a 6 month money back garantee? One would think the best stove in the world would have the best warranty

Too late now and I was the Bruins Hockey game but Rebecca ( head of marketing at PE returned my call today too bad I missed it but I will follow up tomorrow
with a company profile including Vollume number of stoves made number of workers where they enamal whether they out source part of their manufacturing
N umber of stoves sold in USA stove sales in Canada Most companies have an about us part of their web pages but PE site is still under construction

If Roo wants to check it out the phone # is 205 748 1184 and ask for Rebecca I mean lets see what their market share is

hahaha , If you are looking for volume Elk , go to Harbor Freight.

With a lifetime warranty why would one need a 6 month MBG ?

I think the 6 month MBG has to do with no dealers and all sales are shipped.
(unless you live next door )

So why all of a sudden the big rant on PE stoves Elk? , why you keep digging up little chit?

I dont know any any PE owner with issues or problems and everybody is happy with them ..........is that your issue Elk ?

Ever sense the Vermont Casting issues with the Everburn and "normal glowing red stoves" letter you have been on this PE kick to dig up stupid chit that has to do with nothing. You have been pulling info out of yer ars on no dealers and you weren't using the web site right to find a local dealer in the first place, Your telling people that VC makes more stoves in two weeks that PE does all year and you dont have any idea of how many stoves PE makes in a year, your now calling PE to find there market shares and to see how many stoves they sell for ammunition for god knows what so you can down grade a stove that owners are happy with.

Elk ! Go get you a bottle of wine , sit back with your wife and chill man.....throw some steaks on the grill and have a few friends over brother . This long winter is wearing you down man.

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[wg_bent]

I checked out the website and couldn't find a dealer in my area....infact there is only 1 dealer in all the world :lol:

Why are we recommending these stoves to people, with no local support?

What if my house is bigger than 1600sqft, am I out of luck? there is no stove in there lineup to heat more than 1600sqft.

$2714 US +tax+shipping for a Fireview and anyone outside the US would also have to pay duty+ brokerage fees at the border. After all that I would still have to drive to a shipping terminal to get the stove with some buddies(case of beer) because woodstock like to avoid residential shipping or charge another $165.



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If you work it right I'll bet you can get it delivered to the end of a driveway. These stoves never seem to have a problem and people seem to like them.

What is the firebox size of the largest of them? That will help you compare. Also, if you like soapstone and want larger, try Hearthstone. They have a real monster and you can get it locally.

The largest of their stoves is rated at 55k btu's. If you have an 1800 sqft home, that stove will do nicely. if it's 3000 sqft, it's not likely any stove will heat the house well without baking you out of the stove room.

 

[elkimmeg]

Well Roo its not as you think objective detailing of the company. I hope they have a videp of a plant tour simmilar to Vc to post.
If anything the info will point to more support of their products

This is not to be negative but Info even they plan to supply once they build their web site.

If the product is as good as you claim then getting more info should support it

no its not digging up chit but info I think with all the discussion here a little background would be interesting for all to read

In no way did I start this thread VC ve PE you dragged in in BTW whatch for any dog pile the people burning VC stoves would cruch the P few PE menbers in a dog pile
Till now I have only asked availability not comparisons
you dragged in VC comparison not I which had nothing to do with Pe availability
and this thread is about woodstock look in the mirror its you that has a complex not I

 

[webbie]

When it comes to "artisan" stoves like Woodstock, direct selling is often the best approach. This is because stove dealers want to move quantity of particular models and have them stacked in the warehouse. Woodstock had dealers for many years but would often find that the dealers pushed a metal box (it was easier) rather than take a few moments to discuss something a little different. For the same reason, you will find very few dealers selling efficient wood burning central heat, etc. - it is a "distraction" for them when they could rather sell one more VC or something.

It is, of course, a separate issue but the market for direct sales of stoves has been proven to be very large - much larger than woodstock and a few others are supplying, but no one has recently stepped forward to fill the void. Part of the reason for this market is that many people are not treated well in local shops....we have all heard about this. There is also a % of the population who are comfortable with taking part in their own projects - and it makes sense that many wood burners would be this type.

So, as they say, there is an ass for every seat....and those buying a woodstock on sale are arguably getting a good value - PLUS, probably the best before and after customer service around....well, that is, except Englander!!

 

[webbie]

My goodness, you guys have stove complexes. Has the FDA approved a medicine for that yet?

By Elks measurement, GM must make the best cars in the world, since more are sold......bigger is not always better!

There are no measurements that can be taken which "prove" one stove is superior to another. I would guess PE is a 10,000 stove per year operation, which is pretty big - they are probably growing fast also. Personally I don't care a bit about made in Canada vs. made in USA - my minivan was made in Windsor Ontario, as many American cars are. When I go out to shop for a stove, I am going to consider what people think about them - experienced people like those here - and you can bet PE would be on my list!

 

[Gunner]

Does PE have a 6 month money back garantee? One would think the best stove in the world would have the best warranty

Too late now and I was the Bruins Hockey game but Rebecca ( head of marketing at PE returned my call today too bad I missed it but I will follow up tomorrow
with a company profile including Vollume number of stoves made number of workers where they enamal whether they out source part of their manufacturing
N umber of stoves sold in USA stove sales in Canada Most companies have an about us part of their web pages but PE site is still under construction

If Roo wants to check it out the phone # is 205 748 1184 and ask for Rebecca I mean lets see what their market share is

Elk, this is totally laughable. Why you think quality is tied to numbers is beyond me. Does McDonald's make a quality burger cause they have Billions served. :lol:

By the way PE DOES have the best warranty in the bis.

Regarding the porcelain enamel it has the durability of steel the scratch resistance of glass and is warranty for life against fading, it is also recognized by the Porcelain Enamel Institute
http://www.porcelainenamel.com/ look for the pic of the WH Red stove ;-P

 

[elkimmeg]

By Elks measurement, GM must make the best cars in the world, since more are sold......bigger is not always better!

This assumption is far from true If true my wife and I would be driving subans or hummrers But we drive the same car as the Web
master 4 cyl 5spd smaller car gets in the 30's on the Hwy. My personal truck Isusu is another small pk truck 4 cyl
so bigger and better is not the case. I'm doing my part to drive fuel effecient vechicles as much as I can. I do own a 3/4 4x4 pk truck and it is driven for plowing and when I need to haul lumber the smaller truck can not. We make a concertive effort to recycle we compost work our measely soil for gardening use rain barrells./
I would say bigger = better is really out of characture for Ellen an I

Any information PE supplies is just that information. Why can't it be taken as that? Why does one have to assume there is more to it?

 

[begreen]

My goodness, you guys have stove complexes. Has the FDA approved a medicine for that yet?

Glad this isn't the viagra forum .

 

[Roospike]

Well Roo its not as you think objective detailing of the company. I hope they have a videp of a plant tour simmilar to Vc to post.
If anything the info will point to more support of their products

This is not to be negative but Info even they plan to supply once they build their web site.

If the product is as good as you claim then getting more info should support it

no its not digging up chit but info I think with all the discussion here a little background would be interesting for all to read

In no way did I start this thread VC ve PE you dragged in in BTW whatch for any dog pile the people burning VC stoves would cruch the P few PE menbers in a dog pile
Till now I have only asked availability not comparisons
you dragged in VC comparison not I which had nothing to do with Pe availability
and this thread is about woodstock look in the mirror its you that has a complex not I

Hard to have a lot of dealers when the make so few stoves. Did you know in two weeks at CFM plant in VT they make more stoves than PE year total?

If one looked at manufactures stove sales in USA PE is not in the top 10. But there is only 18 manufactures

There are no dealers in MA RI VT CT NH ME NJ PA DE MD VA. WV One is listed in KY
No wonder so many members can't purchase one. No delers no dealer support and we are talking almost the eniter east coast here quite a bit of population ignored by PE

So making recomendations to people that live in these states is a bit foolish .particularly without dealer support. Maybe you PE supporters should get real

By Elks measurement, GM must make the best cars in the world, since more are sold......bigger is not always better!

This assumption is far from true If true my wife and I would be driving subans or hummrers But we drive the same car as the Web
master 4 cyl 5spd smaller car gets in the 30's on the Hwy. My personal truck Isusu is another small pk truck 4 cyl
so bigger and better is not the case. I'm doing my part to drive fuel effecient vechicles as much as I can. I do own a 3/4 4x4 pk truck and it is driven for plowing and when I need to haul lumber the smaller truck can not. We make a concertive effort to recycle we compost work our measely soil for gardening use rain barrells./
I would say bigger = better is really out of characture for Ellen an I

Any information PE supplies is just that information. Why can't it be taken as that? Why does one have to assume there is more to it?

I think you answered you own question Elk.

 

[Roospike]

Elk, this is totally laughable. Why you think quality is tied to numbers is beyond me. Does McDonald's make a quality burger cause they have Billions served. :lol:

By the way PE DOES have the best warranty in the bis.

Regarding the porcelain enamel it has the durability of steel the scratch resistance of glass and is warranty for life against fading, it is also recognized by the Porcelain Enamel Institute
http://www.porcelainenamel.com/ look for the pic of the WH Red stove ;-P

Hey ! Good catch Gunner , sure as chit .........thats a Pacific Energy stove on the Porcelain Enamel Institute web site. :wow:

 

[Gunner]

In no way did I start this thread VC ve PE you dragged in in BTW whatch for any dog pile the people burning VC stoves would cruch the P few PE menbers in a dog pile
Till now I have only asked availability not comparisons
you dragged in VC comparison not I which had nothing to do with Pe availability
and this thread is about woodstock look in the mirror its you that has a complex not I

I had to read this paragraph half a dozen times, and I'm still confused.

 

[TMonter]

Everyone knows Quadrafire makes the best stoves. It's just common knowledge.

;-P

 

[Roospike]

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[Gunner]

Everyone knows Quadrafire makes the best stoves. It's just common knowledge.

;-P

I'll tell ya what I like about Quads bigger stoves is the N/S loading of 24" splits.

How about that, I said something nice about another stove :coolsmile:

Edit-What's also nice is the fact that they have 4 areas of combustion in the stove and everyone else in the bis can only get 2.

 

[Roospike]

Everyone knows Quadrafire makes the best stoves. It's just common knowledge.

;-P

I'll tell ya what I like about Quads bigger stoves is the N/S loading of 24" splits.

How about that, I said something nice about another stove :coolsmile:

I dont know if a like the Quadrafire stoves for sure ,.............. I need to now how many they make first. :coolsmirk:

 

[BrotherBart]

I am sick of all of this stuff. I am off to TSC to see if they have a Vogelzang left in stock. And buy Eric Johnson's add-cat kit for it.

 

[Sandor]

I think Roo offered the best advice, with the booz, steaks, and (implied) sex with the significant other.

We all know I own the best stove, and I am also hung like John Holmes. =;>

 

[BrotherBart]

I think Roo offered the best advice, with the booz, steaks, and (implied) sex with the significant other.

We all know I own the best stove, and I am also hung like John Holmes. =;>

Is it still not being used? The stove that is.

<ducking>

 

[jjbaer]

Finest stove in the world is the Jotul...been making them since 1853! They make the best selling small cast iron stove in the world (sold over 1 million of them)...

 

[BrotherBart]

Yeah, I know. I have two of them. The steel stove from just down the road 143 miles makes them both look like crap.