My two Hearthstones have no vertical metal posts in front of the glass to help prevent splits from falling up against it. I'm considering fabricating something that would serve the purpose. Any thoughts as to why some stove manufacturers provide this while others do not?
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I assume it's a cost/functionality/preference thing...
-costs more to design/incorporate
-costs more to manufacture
-means you need a taller door
-means you need a taller stove to accomodate larger door
Lots of people get by without them... my stove doesn't have one, but it's a cheaper model barebones type stove. Sometimes one would be nice, but occasionally it would be awkward to load some pieces... because I've got a smaller stove with a smaller opening.
-costs more to design/incorporate
-costs more to manufacture
-means you need a taller door
-means you need a taller stove to accomodate larger door
Lots of people get by without them... my stove doesn't have one, but it's a cheaper model barebones type stove. Sometimes one would be nice, but occasionally it would be awkward to load some pieces... because I've got a smaller stove with a smaller opening.
mhrischuk said:
No idea how the decision is made, but the lack of andirons gives you a little more room to work in some splits, especially with side loading. The Heritages does not have them either and I'm fine with that.
BrowningBAR said:
There are times I wish I had them, when a round or split rolls down to the glass. At the least if they were considered as an option consumers could choose.
My Oslo heats my home said:
I'm okay with a split leaning against and touching the glass. Rolling full steam, not so much.
I've thought about removing mine for a little extra capacity and easier glass cleaning but they do serve a purpose by protecting the glass and keeping the air wash clear.
I'm working on an idea where you can tip them inwards (sideways) to load and raise them back up before closing the door. In a dream I envisioned when closing the door, the frame pushes on a lever that raises them.
Todd said:
I think the 'protection' is more 'piece of mind'. Neither the Heritage or the Woodstocks (and the Equinox in this case) are loaded through the front which seems to be when the glass cracks trying to close a door that shouldn't be closed. I don't think Ive seen one thread that was about glass cracking from a split rolling against it.
I have a Hampton 300 which is an east/west stove & it has removable andiron's built into the stove . They are about 5" tall & simply slip into square holes in the front of the stove . They are very handy to have ..........
BrowningBAR said:
My point is I would prefer splits not rolling against the glass, not in fear of breaking it, I just don't like seeing the burning log against the glass knowing I can't open the door. It's a "who's in control here" thing. Yes the EQ has the side door but the insert doesn't so this would be more for the insert.
BrowningBAR said:
Maybe I misunderstood the reasoning behind it , andirons to keep splits in their place? My glass is slightly etched on the lower section from what I attribute to the logs touching.
My Oslo heats my home said:
Yea lots of wood stoves have them. I believe VC inserts all have them.
Some stoves need to load mostly E/W. They have a greater chance of a log rolling toward the glass. For stoves loaded N/S it's a non-issue.
I have to say mine does not have any and with my small firebox at least 30% of the time a split hits the window and I never had it break, crack, etc. The first time I almost %^&* myself but people here made me feel better. I do my best to prevent it but splits on coals, different wood, it shifts and sometimes goes against the window. My firebox is only 10 inches high so any impedance would be a loading issue.
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