Looks like I'll be sitting on my pellets this winter......

[imacman]

......after I checked the price of HHO on Codoil.com.....the highest I'd be paying would be $1.899/gal. My pellets would have to be $225 or less/ton for them to be cheaper to burn....and the price for oil may go even lower.

Here's the $ for Codoil.com delivery to my area as of today:

150 - 199 gallons: $1.899
200 - 299 gallons: $1.899
300 - 499 gallons: $1.869
500+ gallons: $1.839

 

[natnyer]

Like I said . No brainer.

 

[phil san]

Maybe so - maybe your sitting on Gold!

What if!

Israel attacks the Iranian nuke site at the end of summer as has been stated!

Pakistan's govornment falls to Taliban with a bunch of nuclear weapons to be controlled and we intervine!

Economy picks up good and oil goes up along with it!

Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad throughs a hissy fit to control the Straits!

- No, I'll keep my pellet and wood supply on hand to a least get me through one winter before I have to burn the furniture in the next.

 

[imacman]

Maybe so - maybe your sitting on Gold!.......
- No, I'll keep my pellet and wood supply on hand to a least get me through one winter before I have to burn the furniture in the next.

Phil, you misunderstood my post...I still have 4 1/2 tons of pellets on hand, and their stored away nice and safe and dry. If oil goes through the roof, the pellets will start burning again.

 

[natnyer]

By the way i've got lots of wood and a wood stove so I hope the Israelis nuke Iran ,Pakistan, N. Korea and whichever bullcrap dictator stands in the way of human rights and religious freedom. Until then i will burn oil. Because I can. God Bless America and damn her enemies.

 

[Stentor]

Macman is proving the benefit of flexibility. If oil stays low, he is set. If and when it goes up, he's got pellets. That's one reason I got a pellet stove.

(By the way, am I right in assuming that pellets stored safe and dry can last for years?)

 

[phil san]

Pyro - yes, I did mean keep the pellets in reserve and use what is more cost effective for you or whatever you choose.

Let's not get political, but Ted has accomplished more quality legislation than any other Senator. Oh yeah, lets nuke em all and stand up proud and strong and declare we have not been attacked.
While the radioactive rain travels over the land. We haven't been attacked visibly, but are we better off NOW than we were before?

I'll burn my pellets and continue to do so. Like the asthetics of the fire and feel damm good not burning oil!!

 

[smoke show]

Looks like I’ll be sitting on my pellets this winter……


good thing they're little

 

[pelletdude]

I have read everyone's comments for a long time on this forum and I don't get it sometimes. I think you need to figure out if you want to support the middle east and buy oil when it is cheaper than wood or pellets. Burning wood or pellets supports local jobs and businesses and cuts your dependency on foreign oil and people who hate our A**. The comfort level and quality of life you get from wood or pellets far exceeds that of oil.

Burn your pellets and control your life. Stop giving $$$ to the middle east and support the folks in the USA

 

[JustWood]

I have read everyone's comments for a long time on this forum and I don't get it sometimes. I think you need to figure out if you want to support the middle east and buy oil when it is cheaper than wood or pellets. Burning wood or pellets supports local jobs and businesses and cuts your dependency on foreign oil and people who hate our A**. The comfort level and quality of life you get from wood or pellets far exceeds that of oil.

Burn your pellets and control your life. Stop giving $$$ to the middle east and support the folks in the USA

OR take the oil furnace to the scrap yard and replace it with a NG or propane furnace and keep your money in the US.

 

[Delta-T]

how dare you all. if we dont sent $$ to the middle east, they wont be able to build golf courses in the sand. they wont be able to keep filling the pools. who'd gonna pay to replace that Rolls Royce after its a year old? i am ashamed. and they say we are a generous nation.

(all sarcasm my friends)

If you're gonna sit on your pellets, stack them into the shape of a lazy boy or a sofa. Actually very comfy once you wiggle your butt down in there. (yes, I have done this)

 

[TboneMan]

If you’re gonna sit on your pellets, stack them into the shape of a lazy boy or a sofa. Actually very comfy once you wiggle your butt down in there. (yes, I have done this)

Just don't complain about having too many fines! ;-)

 

[geek]

I will try to burn 'local options' first and support local $$, burning pellets is using renewable material/energy, I personally like/rather do this than supporting those suckers that control the oil in the world, just my opinion....

 

[imacman]

I will try to burn 'local options' first and support local $$, burning pellets is using renewable material/energy, I personally like/rather do this than supporting those suckers that control the oil in the world, just my opinion....

I agree with everyone about buying heating fuel that is "home grown", and wish more than anything that I could get ALL my heating fuel from the US, and I DID buy 4 tons of pellets that were made in my own state, (and would buy more IF they were real cheap) to hedge my heating choices bet. So I helped the people that contributed the saw dust or chips and the truck driver that transported them, the people that work in the NY plant that made them, and the guy who delivered them.

However, with $$ being tight, I have to watch my money too. And besides, I'm pretty sure the majority of our crude oil comes right from the US, and of all the oil that we import, the majority comes from Canada, who isn't an OPEC member.

Bottom line.....I have to do what's best for my family first and then my budget.

 

[tinkabranc]

...
Bottom line.....I have to do what's best for my family first and then my budget.

Exactly!

 

[save$]

I am a bit confused about the oil, or should I say, where it comes from. From what I have read over and over again, is that the majority of imported oil to the United States comes from Canada. Certainly not to be confused with countries hostile towards the US. Then there are several other countries we import from that are not in the middle east. The price of oil is very much influenced by what is going on in the middle east. The rest of the world also using oil and much of it is imported to them from the middle east. That sets the tone for the entire oil market.
As for pellets V.S oil, I have to be honest and say that I'll burn both, but may be more inclined to use the pellet stove as a "space heater" as it so often has been referred to by those more experienced with pellet burning. Me, not knowing that, was able to heat my 2000 sq ft + home with only occasional oil supplement when the outside temp when down to below 20 degrees. And with that I also must admit to keeping my home 74 to 76 degrees through out the entire home. Be it real or imagined, we were never so comfortable when we burned oil alone.
While burning pellets may go a long ways to support the local economy, I think that while the cost of oil is down, that we can do much more to limit our dependence on foreign sources of energy by becoming more proactive in supporting the production of legislation that provides incentives for the development and advancement of home based energy and not penalize those that are awaiting transition. An example of this would be having trucks switch over to propane. Less pollution, and abundantly available from within our boarders. It may also be worthwhile to put limits on the NIMBE (not in my back yard) group who often come up with fruity notions to halt or limit development of such things a wind and solar power. Many proven alternate methods of energy production are currently in place in other counties without dire outcomes. While limiting the the NIMBE group, we should also support limiting the ability for taxing alternative energy which would limit the incentive for transition. It is way too easy to heap taxes on new sources of energy that may actually limit the amount of taxes collected from petroleum based energy. The new catch phrase is "user fees (tax)".

 

[natnyer]

LOL guess I caused quite a stir. Name the bridge at Chappaquiddick the honorary Mary Jo Kopeckne bridge not the Teddy Kennedy bridge for the coward that let her drown. He is a loser as all the Kennedys are. Keep drinking scotch papa Joe would be proud.

 

[Stentor]

I am a bit confused about the oil, or should I say, where it comes from. From what I have read over and over again, is that the majority of imported oil to the United States comes from Canada. .......The rest of the world also using oil and much of it is imported to them from the middle east. That sets the tone for the entire oil market..................

While burning pellets may go a long ways to support the local economy, I think that while the cost of oil is down, that we can do much more to limit our dependence on foreign sources of energy by becoming more proactive in supporting the production of legislation that provides incentives for the development and advancement of home based energy and not penalize those that are awaiting transition. An example of this would be having trucks switch over to propane. Less pollution, and abundantly available from within our boarders. It may also be worthwhile to put limits on the NIMBE (not in my back yard) group who often come up with fruity notions to halt or limit development of such things a wind and solar power. Many proven alternate methods of energy production are currently in place in other counties without dire outcomes. While limiting the the NIMBE group, we should also support limiting the ability for taxing alternative energy which would limit the incentive for transition. It is way too easy to heap taxes on new sources of energy that may actually limit the amount of taxes collected from petroleum based energy. The new catch phrase is "user fees (tax)".

Yes, I think it's to everyone's interest to diversify our energy sources. I wonder if pellet and other biomass will pick up and heat other buildings besides private homes. Everyone on this board, understandably, seems interested in individual home heating. Stove sales go up and down but there is a clear net increase in installed stoves. Broader use will make for a larger and, I think, stabler market. We're probably a niche market in North America now. I've read that countries like Austria and Germany are heavily into pellet fuel and are getting successful in selling stoves for small industry here in the U.S.

Sorry if these speculations are too far off topic for this board.

 

[MCPO]

LOL guess I caused quite a stir. Name the bridge at Chappaquiddick the honorary Mary Jo Kopeckne bridge not the Teddy Kennedy bridge for the coward that let her drown. He is a loser as all the Kennedys are. Keep drinking scotch papa Joe would be proud.

Didn`t he also get expelled from Harvard for cheating ? But the ignorant folks from Ma. keep sending scum like him and Barney Frank back to Congress don`t they?
What`s that tell you?

 

[JustWood]

LOL guess I caused quite a stir. Name the bridge at Chappaquiddick the honorary Mary Jo Kopeckne bridge not the Teddy Kennedy bridge for the coward that let her drown. He is a loser as all the Kennedys are. Keep drinking scotch papa Joe would be proud.

Didn`t he also get expelled from Harvard for cheating ? But the ignorant folks from Ma. keep sending scum like him and Barney Frank back to Congress don`t they?
What`s that tell you?

My sentiments exactly!

 

[countk]

LOL guess I caused quite a stir. Name the bridge at Chappaquiddick the honorary Mary Jo Kopeckne bridge not the Teddy Kennedy bridge for the coward that let her drown. He is a loser as all the Kennedys are. Keep drinking scotch papa Joe would be proud.

Didn`t he also get expelled from Harvard for cheating ? But the ignorant folks from Ma. keep sending scum like him and Barney Frank back to Congress don`t they?
What`s that tell you?

My sentiments exactly!

Mine also, BTW Namelesslee I oftentimes wonder why I live here. Some day I will make it out!

 

[Delta-T]

Mass is like 2 different states.....East of 495 and west of 495. I feel badly for many of you (i'm a former Mass inhabitant). I think lots of people in the Northeast will be sitting on pellets this year. Think positive,pellet tons offer excellent insulative properties.

 

[slls]

[/quote] Mine also, BTW Namelesslee I oftentimes wonder why I live here. Some day I will make it out![/quote]

I did, many years ago.

 

[countk]

Mass is like 2 different states.....East of 495 and west of 495. I feel badly for many of you (i'm a former Mass inhabitant). I think lots of people in the Northeast will be sitting on pellets this year. Think positive,pellet tons offer excellent insulative properties.

In case you haven't noticed, NH isn't much better since so many liberals from MA have migrated there. I agree that MA is worse east of 495, however Northampton, Amherst and a lot of the Berkshires are just as bad.

 

[fossil]

Ya know, you guys...this thread has wandered so far off topic and counter to the general purpose of Hearth.com, that I'm just gonna shut it down. It's not going anywhere threads should go on these forums. natnyer, I s'pose you're a member of Ihatethekennedeys.com, where, of course, you post about pellet stoves. No, I'm not addressing the behavior of any member of that family, I'm addressing your behavior here on this forum. This is The Pellet Mill and Corn Crib, not the rants and raves forum. Rick