Montgomery ward wood stove #28

JackThompson899 Posted By JackThompson899, Nov 7, 2018 at 2:43 PM

  1. JackThompson899

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    Hey guys, sorry to resurrect such an old thread, but I also have the same stove and this is the only place on the entire internet I've found mention of it or an image of it.

    I've attached pictures of my stove that I am restoring, and I'm learning a lot just going through the thread on this site, great stuff!

    I have a few follow up questions. (I'll be using this stove to heat a cabin in the woods)

    For the inside, this seems to have basic 10 gauge steel for the sides and cast iron for the top and bottom.

    I was looking at solutions for this (Since I don't know how it was originally configured) and instead of double lining it and putting KAO Wool between the steel sheets, or installing fire brick I think I'm going to line it with refractory cement. I'm thinking 1/4"-1/2" of cement lining the sides should be ok, but with all the discussions of heat radiation on wood stoves I'm reading, I'm wondering if lining this with refractory cement will screw up my heat radiation, or if it'll be ok.

    There is a door in the front bottom for removing ash and allowing air flow into it, so I'm going to forge a steel grate for the bottom to keep the coals off the cast iron bottom and give me a void I can shovel from. I assume it had something like this before.

    From the pictures, does anybody know if this stove is missing a bottom front shelf? In all the similar wood stoves I've seen they have a little shelf this one doesn't seem to have.
     

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    This needs a new thread for better responses.
     
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    Thanks! :)
     
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    Looks a bit like an early variation on the Ashley design.
     
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    Any thoughts on lining it with refractory cement to protect the 12 guage sides?

    Someone mentioned in passing that I should leave gaps for expansion. I'm thinking maybe when I mix and spread the liner on I can use a concrete trowel and give it lines like on a sidewalk to do the trick.
     
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    A sidewalk uses felt/asphalt expansion joints, it's not just a crack in the concrete. A stove has a much wider range of temperatures to deal with.

    Are you replacing the steel and adding refractory cement, or hoping the refractory cement will plug the holes in the old steel? Those are significantly different use cases.
     
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    I'm not replacing the steel, only cleaning it and giving it a cover of Stove Bright Metallic Black 6309 on the sides, and bottom, then some stove black on the cook surface up top.

    The sides seem to be holding up, but might have some spots where it is somewhat worn, but not worn through.

    The Stove Bright Metallic has some metal flakes in it, and can be (Reportedly) be used to provide minor additional thickness to the sides.

    I had this stove appraised online by a specialist and here's what his recommendation was regarding refractory cement:

    "At least 3/4 inch thick more is better
    and leave expansion joints"

    So expansion joints is what I'm wondering about. I'm assuming he means the same thing you're talking about, but I'm wondering if there's a special tool or guideline for creating expansion joints.
     

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