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Posted By pyroholic,
Jul 30, 2013 at 3:27 PM
Seems like a lot to pay for a 15+ year old saw
I paid that much for my 036, similar vintage, although it looked like it had never been used. Piston wasn't even broken in.
038 mag is in the same range as an 044. I wouldn't be afraid at 425.00 if its mint.
036 Pro is 63cc
038 Mag is 72cc
28" full skipper is about the max I would run. I have a 32" for my 460 Mag (full skip) and thats the limit. IMO.
Never found more than a hand full of trees needing anything over a 28inch. Not looking for another one either.
If you don't have to haul it home and split it yourself, cutting big trees is a hell of a lot of fun.
Monster rounds sitting in the driveway waiting to be split sure make for some interesting conversation with visitors, too!
Your going to need a bucket loader for these oaks around here. When you say 50 + inch and oak in the same sentence its going to get real rough. (Even an 880 can lay down on you)
I worked up the trunk of a 36" white oak last weekend with the 361. That was a job. I was refueling after the first 6 rounds.
I had to reload every two rounds with a 880 on the one in my avatar. (55 inch red)
Hmm... maybe I should've bought that 084 on Saturday. I have two 50+ inch oaks down on a friend's land, with my name on them.
I did cut a 60" oak this spring, but everything below the 49" diameter mark was hollow. The 064 with full comp chisel on a 28" bar went thru those solid 49" rounds like a hot knife thru butter, though. Well, until I hit one of these buried in the bark.
Well I can tell you if its oak 55 inch's and solid Its no joke even for a 880 (couple good vapor locks). We had 4 guys to put the rounds into the splitter. I done 3 oaks now over 50 inch and really do not want to do another one. One I had to clean up afterwards there was a s-10 and 4 foot by 10 foot trailer full of saw dust.
Yeah, I don't even try to get them on the splitter, anymore. I quarter them with the saw, before even trying to move them onto the splitter, any more. I did the math a while back on a 50" diameter x 20" long round of green oak, and I remember the weight being right around 1500 lb.
That sounds about right 6 rounds filled two trailer to the max. It was a slow ride home.
How are you guys moving these rounds to your drive I see "smokinj" had 4 guys, but Joful how are you moving 40" rounds to your house and even these 60"ers your talking about?? Thgey must weigh 400+ pounds!! I know when i had some 36-40" stuff i had to go from each side with my 20" bar and still pry it apart as there was a tiny center left. I was getting like 30 splits per round. But i have a loader (think what loggers use) load it in a dumptruck and i hauled it to the house. it was too big for the mill to take so they gave it to me.
Anyway, i can see rolling the 36-40"ers onto a trailer but you and another guy are not picking them up and placing them in a truck!! I would ahve to noodle those where they lay to even move them!
400 lb. ain't nothing... My helper and I just roll them by hand up the drop-gate onto the trailer, or we'll roll them onto the 3-point platform on the back of his tractor, lift, back it up to a pickup, and roll it off.
However, most of these big rounds are WAY heavier than 400 lb., for those I use my front-end loader, up to about 1100 lb. The real big oak I brought home (1500 lb. rounds) was a lucky situation, where I was doing a favor for my church. Another member brought an excavator and a dump truck, so as I was cutting the rounds, he was picking them up and loading them into the dump truck. He hauled it to my house and dumped them in the driveway. I'm able to push them around the driveway with my little front end loader, but I can't pick them up (1100 or 1200 lb. limit on that machine).
edit: For anyone concerned, I took half, and had the dump truck driver take the other half for himself!
Does your drive way have cracks?
I hope not! I've been working on that pile recently, and other than a little crumbling around the perimeter (was probably already that way), I haven't found any... yet. It happened to be in the spring, while I was doing my garden mulch, so there was a nice big pile of mulch in the driveway. The dump truck driver backed up to the mulch pile, and "gently" dumped the rounds on the pile, for a soft landing. The only scary thing was catching one or two run-aways, that went heading for the hill that goes down to the house. Luckily we caught them before they got to the real slopey part of the hill!
Getting the mulch out from under the rounds, and vice versa, was a little fun.
038 mag with an 8 pin rim, 20 in bar & skip chain would be a nice combo. I run that on my 046. Anything longer you may wanna go back to the 7 pin rim. Jay called it right on at 28" bar, about all that saw will want & still be effective.
Big Oak is big work no matter how you look at it. Jay's got me beat by 1" & 1 big log. I did a 54" & 52" respectively. I'll avoid the next one unless it pays enough to retire. Too much time into them to be worth it for firewood, not to mention the work involved. I want 12 to 18" phone poles with 0 lean. LOL A C