News on Blaze King Sentry 14?

[AILDWarrior]

Has anyone heard anything about the new BK Sentry 14?

If it's truly as miraculous as it seems, it looks like the Jotul 602 and Hearthstone Lincoln destroyer. They're claiming rear clearances of 1" and side clearances of 8". Even though the Jotul is a smaller stove, the footprint on a hearthpad ends up about the same due to the clearance dimension differences. With the firebox being almost twice the size, blaze king tech, and similar pricing, it seems like a no-brainer.

Sounds like it's only available in Canada right now but I'm curious if anyone has seen it perform at a trade show, or if you guys know when it might be released in the US?

 

[BKVP]

I have! Developed in our lab in Walla Walla. Test report submitted to EPA last year.

Awaiting certification.

BKVP

 

[AILDWarrior]

Thank you BKVP, that's awesome to hear! You'll very likely have a new customer here in AK once the stove is certified!

There are a lot of people in my area that live in 600-1200ft^2 homes for whom this stove will be the Holy Grail. It's great to see some high quality challengers like Hearthstone and now BK entering the small home market with top notch and efficient engineering. I'll be on the waitlist as soon as my local dealership will take orders.

 

[Dieselhead]

Veep,
I’m not sure who runs your FB page but you may want to reflect what you mentioned about “awaiting approval” on your recent post. It reads that it’s exclusively available in Canada but that’s it. Potential new stove shoppers may see that and move on to a different brand thinking it’s a Canada only stove. That’s how I interpreted it.

 

[Murray01]

Starting at $2850 Canadian $. $2090 US$

 

[stoveliker]

That has to be introductory pricing. Unlikely to not increase by 30% once some small stove market share has been reached imo

 

[BKVP]

Starting at $2850 Canadian $. $2090 US$

Not even close...where did this appear?

BKVP

 

[BKVP]

Veep,
I’m not sure who runs your FB page but you may want to reflect what you mentioned about “awaiting approval” on your recent post. It reads that it’s exclusively available in Canada but that’s it. Potential new stove shoppers may see that and move on to a different brand thinking it’s a Canada only stove. That’s how I interpreted it.

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This is actually NOT our FB page. A dealer in Canada started the page but I will get this addressed.

Thank you,
BKVP

 

[Murray01]

Not even close...where did this appear?

BKVP

S.S14 BLAZE KING SENTRY 14 WOOD STOVE WITH PEDESTAL

BUILT IN THERMOSTAT EXTRA LARGE VIEWING AREA 14"X11" STANDARD OPEN PEDESTAL CLOSE CLEARANCES 1" REAR, CORNER 4" SIDES 8" FIREBOX VOLUME 1.46CU.FT. FIREBOX SIZE 17-1/4" WIDE X 12-1/2" DEEP LOG LENGTH 16" OPTIONAL EXTRAS OPTIONAL CONVECTION DECK ONLY S.Z6849 FAN WITH CONVECTION DECK S.Z6814

ferniehearthandhome.com

Blaze King Wood Stoves

Providing quality wood, gas and electric heating solutions all across Manitoba.

backwoods1017.com

 

[Dieselhead]

This is actually NOT our FB page. A dealer in Canada started the page but I will get this addressed.

Thank you,
BKVP

Wow I never would have guessed. Pretty brazen.

 

[Todd]

So this looks like an E/W loading convection stove? Too bad BK doesn’t make a radiant stove but I suppose you’d never see such close clearances.

 

[BKVP]

The side shields were needed to take advantage of close clearances. It is radiant like a Princess or Sirocco. It is not like Ashford or Chinook which are convective.

BKVP

 

[Todd]

Are the side shields removable? It would be a nice option imo. I’d rather have a true radiant stove option.

 

[stoveliker]

but why have a very small stove (with a small footprint) when then you need much larger clearances (creating a large footprint)?

 

[BKVP]

Are the side shields removable? It would be a nice option imo. I’d rather have a true radiant stove option.

No. Tested with...

BKVP

 

[Todd]

but why have a very small stove (with a small footprint) when then you need much larger clearances (creating a large footprint)?

It’s not like the clearance difference is huge. The Jotul 602 and Hearthstone Lincoln are small radiant stoves and fit just fine in a small footprint. What is it like 8-12” off the wall? You still have to have at least 6” for the pipe or 18” if single wall pipe.

I’d just like to see more true radiant steel stoves out there. I think this is why so many people hold on to their Fishers. They just don’t feel the heat is the same with the newer shielded stoves.

 

[Tron]

I’d just like to see more true radiant steel stoves out there.

Can't agree here, but everyone's different.
Due to the nature of radiation (inverse square law), intensity drops with the distance from the source squared.
So "felt heat" varies widely depending on how far you are from the stove.

I like my (mostly) convective Chinook. Distributes heat much more evenly throughout the room, IMHO.

 

[Todd]

You still get some natural convection from a radiant stove and radiant heat is healthier and a more efficient heat.

 

[stoveliker]

Can you explain why radiant heat is healthier?

Efficient can be argued; on the one hand in a small room, you'll feel warmer due to radiant heat even when the air temp is (too) low. So that could be an efficiency argument.
On the other hand, the BTUs put in the room do not necessarily differ per lbs wood burned if stoves (radiant and convective) have the same efficiencies. But that's all less interesting to me than the first question above.

 

[Todd]

Can you explain why radiant heat is healthier?

Efficient can be argued; on the one hand in a small room, you'll feel warmer due to radiant heat even when the air temp is (too) low. So that could be an efficiency argument.
On the other hand, the BTUs put in the room do not necessarily differ per lbs wood burned if stoves (radiant and convective) have the same efficiencies. But that's all less interesting to me than the first question above.

Convection stoves suck up room air along with allergy particles, dust and other bad stuff and circulate it around your home. I also read something about how it burns the oxygen molecules while passing through causing unhealthy air.

I believe the efficiency thing has to do with air movement losing heat as it travels is not as efficient as radiation heating the objects in the room.

I’ve come across this stuff while researching masonry heaters so it may be a little bias but some of it does make sense to me.

 

[stoveliker]

Convection stoves suck up room air along with allergy particles, dust and other bad stuff and circulate it around your home.

Yes they do.
But when you are radiating heat, heating up other things, the air there heats up too, rises, creates air flow, and thus particle flow. Convection is due to relative temperature differences.
Moreover, see next :

I also read something about how it burns the oxygen molecules while passing through causing unhealthy air.

That's bogus. (Oxygen doesn't burn, it makes other things burn.) Regardless A radiative stove may have a hotter surface and thus interacts more with the air in the room. (And that hot surface will also create a lot of convection too; put a light at the edge of the stove and watch the shadows of the "heat waves" on the wall. That's convection turbulence.)

I believe the efficiency thing has to do with air movement losing heat as it travels is not as efficient as radiation heating the objects in the room.

That is true (see my remarks above about feeling warm when the air temp is not as warm - same as why infrared panel heaters can save one some $$ versus electric resistance heating.

 

[ABMax24]

@BKVP

Since we're picking things apart, the image scaling on the BK website is really off pending which photo you look at, some the stove looks really skinny, others not so much.

Looks like an interesting product though, seems it will solve the inconsistent heat output issue small homes have when trying to heat with wood.

 

[BKVP]

The lower (last image) is correct. We heard from lots of folks that have cabins, hurts and small spaces to build a small "Blaze King."

We listened.

BKVP

 

[begreen]

Nice, that should be popular with the small space needs. What is the btu output at low and slow thermostat setting?

 

[Egbert Souse']

Nice, that should be popular with the small space needs. What is the btu output at low and slow thermostat setting?

I looked on their website the other day. I believe it was sub 9000 btu output on low