on the hunt for a 13nc

[Rebelduckman]

I'm gonna go ahead and clean up the 17 after tomorrow night and try to sell it. Hoping to get in the 3-400 range for it. It's only 3 months old and like new.

Ive looked at a few stoves similar that others have mentioned on here but ive decided the 13 is what i want. Anybody know where a better deal is on the 13nc than the $649 the big orange store is offering online?

 

[yooperdave]

I think some members have been doing a search on the orange store website but they are using a different zip code. They end up with a less expensive stove and also have it shipped to their local orange store. Wish I knew exactly which code they use.

How did you like your 17? When the cold snap hits us, I sure could use a little kicker stove for the basement, ya know? Not looking for overnight burns, just something I can fire up while I'm in the cave.

 

[Dix]

http://www.overstockstoves.com/50epacenowos.html

Direct from the source gets you a blower, too.

Dunno about HD and other sources.

 

[Rebelduckman]

I love the stove

I think some members have been doing a search on the orange store website but they are using a different zip code. They end up with a less expensive stove and also have it shipped to their local orange store. Wish I knew exactly which code they use.

How did you like your 17? When the cold snap hits us, I sure could use a little kicker stove for the basement, ya know? Not looking for overnight burns, just something I can fire up while I'm in the cave.

Love the stove. It's just not quite big enough when it's really cold out and i can't get the overnight burn. It would be perfect for the scenario you mentioned though.

 

[yooperdave]

Pulaski, huh? Man, that sure is far from here! Who knows, though? If i go to Indy to pick up a sawmill...Man- wouldn't 99 be surprised! A sawmill and another stove!

 

[Dix]

I love the stove


Love the stove. It's just not quite big enough when it's really cold out and i can't get the overnight burn. It would be perfect for the scenario you mentioned though.

You are not going to get more that 4 - 6 hours out of the 13. The fire box is just not big enough, FYI.

 

[Rebelduckman]

Yea it would be a little hike for sure lol

 

[Rebelduckman]

You are not going to get more that 4 - 6 hours out of the 13. The fire box is just not big enough, FYI.

6 hours would be fine. I rarely sleep over that. I'm only getting 3-4 with the 17 though with good seasoned hardwood

 

[RopeS]

I was looking for the 13NC also, and will probably go with a refurb from am fm energy if I still decide to go that way. Look into that if you don't mind a scratch/dent here or there, seems like a good value. That being said, I'm holding out a couple more months to see what Englander has up their sleeve regarding a midsize stove..

 

[Rebelduckman]

Here it is

I was looking for the 13NC also, and will probably go with a refurb from am fm energy if I still decide to go that way. Look into that if you don't mind a scratch/dent here or there, seems like a good value. That being said, I'm holding out a couple more months to see what Englander has up their sleeve regarding a midsize stove..

Is something in the works?

 

[Rebelduckman]

I think some members have been doing a search on the orange store website but they are using a different zip code. They end up with a less expensive stove and also have it shipped to their local orange store. Wish I knew exactly which code they use.

How did you like your 17? When the cold snap hits us, I sure could use a little kicker stove for the basement, ya know? Not looking for overnight burns, just something I can fire up while I'm in the cave.

I think some members have been doing a search on the orange store website but they are using a different zip code. They end up with a less expensive stove and also have it shipped to their local orange store. Wish I knew exactly which code they use.

How did you like your 17? When the cold snap hits us, I sure could use a little kicker stove for the basement, ya know? Not looking for overnight burns, just something I can fire up while I'm in the cave.

How do you like your 13? Is it gonna give me that overnight burn I'm looking for with seasoned oak? 6 hours would get me by. Also, did you build your hearth? If so, how did you go about getting the required 2.0 r value? Tia

 

[yooperdave]

I like my 13! Well enough to be a repeat customer at Englander. They have a service after the sale department that everyone raves about! I had to deal with a couple small issues and they jumped right on it. The service tech had a heavier accent (go figure) and we had a little fun with that; you know, the old Northern/Southern thing.
I use the 13 at my cottage and as far as the overnight burns, you will have to get up during the night to feed it or by morning, there will be just a trace of coals left. This is enough for me as the cottage is very small and I just re-kindle the fire. I'm looking at 7-8 hours that I get out of it with "usable" coals that I can work with (barely). The square footage is less than 800, so it doesn't lose heat too fast.
I think I came close to the required r-value for the hearth when I added everything up...
As I remember, I used 3/4" plywood (not osb) for the base of the hearth, then cement board, then the tile. Looking back on it. maybe I could have built the hearth a bit higher, but I'd still be bending over to feed/clean it anyway. I had the side heat shield fabricated locally and I forgot to tell the layout man to cross break the shield, so that is why you see the bottom of the heat shield sticking out a bit from the stove (in pic). I needed the heat shield for clearance requirements to the side wall on the right. If you have a more normal amount of square footage you will definitely want to fire up during the night to help maintain the comfort level. Just how cold do your nights get?
If I can help any other way, let me know.

 

[yooperdave]

Rebel-read through this post and you will find info on what zip to use for the orange store discount.



https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/installing-a-new-englander-nc-30.126577/

 

[Rebelduckman]

I like my 13! Well enough to be a repeat customer at Englander. They have a service after the sale department wasn't everyone raves about! I had to deal with a couple small issues and they jumped right on it. The service tech had a heavier accent (go figure) and we had a little fun with that; you know, the old Northern/Southern thing.
I use the 13 at my cottage and as far as the overnight burns, you will have to get up during the night to feed it or by morning, there will be just a trace of coals left. This is enough for me as the cottage is very small and I just re-kindle the fire. I'm looking at 7-8 hours that I get out of it with "usable" coals that I can work with (barely). The square footage is less than 800, so it doesn't lose heat too fast.
I think I came close to the required r-value for the hearth when I added everything up...
As I remember, I used 3/4" plywood (not osb) for the base of the hearth, then cement board, then the tile. Looking back on it. maybe I could have built the hearth a bit higher, but I'd still be bending over to feed/clean it anyway. I had the side heat shield fabricated locally and I forgot to tell the layout man to cross break the shield, so that is why you see the bottom of the heat shield sticking out a bit from the stove (in pic). I needed the heat shield for clearance requirements to the side wall on the right. If you have a more normal amount of square footage you will definitely want to fire up during the night to help maintain the comfort level. Just how cold do your nights get?
If I can help any other way, let me know.

Thanks for the info. I'm in central Mississippi so it's usually fairly mild. Jan. Highs in 40's, lows in 20's are normal but this year has been rough. I think the whole
US got hammered this year. We had several days with teens and 20's for highs and single digit lows. I'm setting on a temporary hearth right now of just durock. I wasn't sure what I wanted to do when I got the stove but I wasn't waiting to fire it up ha. The 17 only requires .5 though vs. 2.0 r for the 13. I left myself room on my clearances and should have a couple inches to spare for a bigger stove. Hopefully I can sell mine and go on and get the 13. I think it'll suit my situation just fine

 

[Rebelduckman]

Rebel-read through this post and you will find info on what zip to use for the orange store discount.



https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/installing-a-new-englander-nc-30.126577/

How much heat does the 13 put out on the floor around the stove? The 17 doesn't heat up the floor at all. Don't see why ember protection only couldn't be used but I'm not an engineer

 

[begreen]

Evidently, a lot more. This is probably in part because the firebox on the 17VL is higher off the hearth than the 13-NC. The 13NC has an R=2.0 hearth insulation requirement.

 

[RickBlaine]

Rebelduckman:

1) Confirm if your local Home Depot will honor Lowe's coupons. Lowe's ALWAYS has 10% off coupons floating around. I have 3 Home Depots with 5 miles of me, 2 Lowe's, 1 Ace Hardware, and 1 Menards. All will accept each other's coupons within reason.

2) HD, Lowes, and Ace all sell a version of the 13 stove (Englander, Summer's Heat, etc). One of the three local Home Depots will even accept coupons from Harbor Freight, even though Harbor Freight does NOT sell the Englander stove! (There are many 20% and 25% off coupons from Harbor Freight floating around). In that instance, the HD and HF are within 1.5 miles of one another.

3) The first HD I went to told me to take a hike.

4) Second HD said they would give me 10% off. Take it or leave it.

5) I went out to the parking lot and called the HD 1-800 number. Spoke with the gent, was polite, and pointed out two things:
A) I have 10%, 20%, and 25% off coupons from Lowe's and Harbor Freight. What would they honor? For the stove, they said 10% off.
B) The NC-30 could be bought for $649 (down from $899) by using the zip code "trick" mentioned above. That was a lot of stove for $649.99. Could they deal a little lower on the 13? They came back with ANOTHER 5% off.

So I ordered the Englander 13 from Home Depot for $551.65 before tax.

I hope that helps you.....Took me one hour to travel, call, and order but saved $100.

 

[Rebelduckman]

Evidently, a lot more. This is probably in part because the firebox on the 17VL is higher off the hearth than the 13-NC. The 13NC has an R=2.0 hearth insulation requirement.

Yep didn't think about the wood storage underneath.

Rebelduckman:

1) Confirm if your local Home Depot will honor Lowe's coupons. Lowe's ALWAYS has 10% off coupons floating around. I have 3 Home Depots with 5 miles of me, 2 Lowe's, 1 Ace Hardware, and 1 Menards. All will accept each other's coupons within reason.

2) HD, Lowes, and Ace all sell a version of the 13 stove (Englander, Summer's Heat, etc). One of the three local Home Depots will even accept coupons from Harbor Freight, even though Harbor Freight does NOT sell the Englander stove! (There are many 20% and 25% off coupons from Harbor Freight floating around). In that instance, the HD and HF are within 1.5 miles of one another.

3) The first HD I went to told me to take a hike.

4) Second HD said they would give me 10% off. Take it or leave it.

5) I went out to the parking lot and called the HD 1-800 number. Spoke with the gent, was polite, and pointed out two things:
A) I have 10%, 20%, and 25% off coupons from Lowe's and Harbor Freight. What would they honor? For the stove, they said 10% off.
B) The NC-30 could be bought for $649 (down from $899) by using the zip code "trick" mentioned above. That was a lot of stove for $649.99. Could they deal a little lower on the 13? They came back with ANOTHER 5% off.

So I ordered the Englander 13 from Home Depot for $551.65 before tax.

I hope that helps you.....Took me one hour to travel, call, and order but saved $100.

I'll surely give this a try, thanks

 

[yooperdave]

I never measured the heat that the stove puts out underneath it (towards the floor) but I remember the first time I felt the floor under there, I was surprised. It wasn't shocking or a safety issue; I think the only way I could explain it is that a pet definitely wouldn't be laying under there for the heat!