Painting a brand new wood stove insert
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Pics of the jagged areas attached.
Having never bought a fireplace insert before, I didn't expect to see unfinished looking areas. For $2700 I figured edges would be straight. As mentioned above, I may be expecting too much
It's been known to happen.
Having never bought a fireplace insert before, I didn't expect to see unfinished looking areas. For $2700 I figured edges would be straight. As mentioned above, I may be expecting too much
It's been known to happen.Attachments
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etiger2007
Minister of Fire
Yeah I would be upset with that too thats BS. How is it heating the house and how long does it produce usable heat? Just to get a feel for the stoves performance, the jagged edge I just cant believe that.
Damn, I won't be happy with that either. Hope it's heating well for you. Dealing with customer service people can be a PITA, so I understand your reluctance.
I've been having issues with getting much heat out of it, and I mostly blame myself. I don't think I'm getting good heat either due to unseasoned wood or too short a stack (draft issue). It's the old "burns great with the door cracked, doesn't burn so great when it's closed" routine... I read the stickies, and have self-diagnosed. I'm leaning more towards the stack being too short
The poor burning is resulting in the bottom of my stove getting filled with ash in a matter of two days. I cleaned it out Sunday Morning, and Monday night, the firebox is 1/4 full of ash and klinkers. I end up stirring the red coals around to try to get them to render down more, making more room. Not an efficient method, for sure.
I've tried burning 2" kiln dried doug fir mill ends, just to see what happens (as dry as it gets, right?) and I still get a lot of ash, which I assume to be incomplete combustion.
When the installers come back out to add the knobs and faceplates that weren't included originally, I'll ask them to add on another 3 feet or so... gonna end up looking funny on the roof... I've got two stacks side by side (two fireplaces, back to back)... the one with the insert will end up being 3 feet taller than its counterpart which is still an ordinary fireplace.... can you say, hokie?
The price we pay for heat...
The poor burning is resulting in the bottom of my stove getting filled with ash in a matter of two days. I cleaned it out Sunday Morning, and Monday night, the firebox is 1/4 full of ash and klinkers. I end up stirring the red coals around to try to get them to render down more, making more room. Not an efficient method, for sure.
I've tried burning 2" kiln dried doug fir mill ends, just to see what happens (as dry as it gets, right?) and I still get a lot of ash, which I assume to be incomplete combustion.
When the installers come back out to add the knobs and faceplates that weren't included originally, I'll ask them to add on another 3 feet or so... gonna end up looking funny on the roof... I've got two stacks side by side (two fireplaces, back to back)... the one with the insert will end up being 3 feet taller than its counterpart which is still an ordinary fireplace.... can you say, hokie?
The price we pay for heat...
The weak draft could also be due to mild outside temps. If this is combined with non-dry wood the results will disappoint.
How tall in the liner?
How tall in the liner?
I live on the NorCal Coast; temps during the winter have been 30's to 40's at night. I'm attaching some pics from when we bought the house a year ago so you can see the layout of the chimneys. I've stood next to them, so i estimate them to be about 5.5 feet.![[Hearth.com] Painting a brand new wood stove insert](https://www.hearth.com/talk/data/attachments/65/65123-cf1a4b335e79fc5e135a13b1a8c01148.jpg?hash=543pxYO7jS "[Hearth.com] Painting a brand new wood stove insert")
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So you have about 12ft in chimney height? If that is the case it might only draft well when your in the 30's.
yeah, 12 is probably a good estimate... what do y'all think I need extra in order to get good draft? I'm pretty sure I saw a formula somewhere in my reading, but don't recall where it was.
Otis B Driftwood
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rn: If you change your mind and paint that thing Candy Apple Red,
it had better get to 60mph in 5 seconds on the open road.
BTW, an interesting endeavor, because I thought Black went with everything?
Do factories take color requests on special orders?
it had better get to 60mph in 5 seconds on the open road.
BTW, an interesting endeavor, because I thought Black went with everything?
Do factories take color requests on special orders?
12 ft is the minimum for that stove, I would take that cap off and put an extender on and take it up to 14 ft. That 2 ft difference sometimes really helps the draft. That spot also looks windy, that will hurt your draft as well. A good cap will help with that.
Right now your temps are pretty much like ours. Burning with a 12ft flue is going to be balky. Adding 2-3ft will help, as will dry wood.
overfire
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- Apr 9, 2012
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New to the site but long in the tooth wood burner and cutter here.
Osburn makes a great unit. I replaced a BK King Parlor with a Osburn 2400 and have been very impressed. I liked my BK but the dealer here in Fairbanks is horrible which happens to be an Osburn dealer as well but I didnt purchase this 2400 from them. I purchased my Osburn 2400 at the begining of our winter which starts about September here and only went through 4.5 to 5 cords and about 100gal of heating oil for hot water. I burned the same ammount of wood that I did with the BK which makes me a believer.
Im heating 3,300sqft home, I do have a 2000 cfm air handler to circluate heated air from the stove through the house. Something every larger home with wood heat needs in my opinion. Thanks JB for the great install if you see this.
Osburn makes a great unit. I replaced a BK King Parlor with a Osburn 2400 and have been very impressed. I liked my BK but the dealer here in Fairbanks is horrible which happens to be an Osburn dealer as well but I didnt purchase this 2400 from them. I purchased my Osburn 2400 at the begining of our winter which starts about September here and only went through 4.5 to 5 cords and about 100gal of heating oil for hot water. I burned the same ammount of wood that I did with the BK which makes me a believer.
Im heating 3,300sqft home, I do have a 2000 cfm air handler to circluate heated air from the stove through the house. Something every larger home with wood heat needs in my opinion. Thanks JB for the great install if you see this.
@Otis:
Unsure of the custom paint jobs by the factory... would be a nice option, imo... think more people would take advantage of it if the factory offered it... and most probably would be willing to pay a bit extra for it too just to not have the hassle of doing it themselves as they assemble. And yes, black does/did go with everything... back in the 80's (I was in high school then, so I know of what I speak lol).
@Mellow:
You are correct about the windy assessment... we are on a bit of a hillside, and the smoke coming out of the chimney does tend to sweep uphill, or roil off non-directionally.
I know most of my wood is too damp, as I hear steam hiss when "burning" hardwoods, and the fir I'm using for starting the fires doesn't generate much heat I think because of the mellow temps and the short liner.
So in theory, I should be able to make a hot blazer if I add the extension primarily, and then wood quality should be improved.
@ begreen:
thanks for the assessment also... agrees with mellow, so obviously I'm on the right track here.
@ overfire:
glad you're osburn is working for you... did you notice anything on your stove like mine, i.e. rough looking end cuts? wondering if mine are anomalies or if it's just par for the course and I need to learn to just "take it".
Wifey and I have agreed on going full tile, no wooden mantle except just adding a bit of depth to the existing alcove... tile coming in hopefully tomorrow, will post when it comes, just for fun... then the real work begins.
Unsure of the custom paint jobs by the factory... would be a nice option, imo... think more people would take advantage of it if the factory offered it... and most probably would be willing to pay a bit extra for it too just to not have the hassle of doing it themselves as they assemble. And yes, black does/did go with everything... back in the 80's
(I was in high school then, so I know of what I speak lol). @Mellow:
You are correct about the windy assessment... we are on a bit of a hillside, and the smoke coming out of the chimney does tend to sweep uphill, or roil off non-directionally.
I know most of my wood is too damp, as I hear steam hiss when "burning" hardwoods, and the fir I'm using for starting the fires doesn't generate much heat I think because of the mellow temps and the short liner.
So in theory, I should be able to make a hot blazer if I add the extension primarily, and then wood quality should be improved.
@ begreen:
thanks for the assessment also... agrees with mellow, so obviously I'm on the right track here.
@ overfire:
glad you're osburn is working for you... did you notice anything on your stove like mine, i.e. rough looking end cuts? wondering if mine are anomalies or if it's just par for the course and I need to learn to just "take it".
Wifey and I have agreed on going full tile, no wooden mantle except just adding a bit of depth to the existing alcove... tile coming in hopefully tomorrow, will post when it comes, just for fun... then the real work begins.
overfire
New Member
- Apr 9, 2012
- 13
I didnt have any damage or rough cuts but my stove is slightly different than yours. You have a bay front unit with loovers and those louvers can be slightly tweeked when you uncrate the stove due to it being shipped etc.The rough cuts is something I would talk to your dealer about and they should have no problem replacing them for you. Osburn is an outstanding company.
I love my Osburn and wouldnt trade it for any other stove on the market today. The dealer I purchased it from is great and it helps when you have a retailer that is willing to go the extra mile for you.
And Ill say again. Thanks JB and AH&H for the great service.
I love my Osburn and wouldnt trade it for any other stove on the market today. The dealer I purchased it from is great and it helps when you have a retailer that is willing to go the extra mile for you.
And Ill say again. Thanks JB and AH&H for the great service.
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