Dieselhead
Minister of Fire
Jake that black smoke is only on startup? I have 2 50' pines im gonna be dropping this spring figured id get some wood out of them. Dont know how to tell if white pines or some other species of pine though.
Stove-Parts-Unlimited said:We live in Montana, it gets to -40 here quite often, and we have our stove going at least 6-7 months a year. We burn lodgepole pine here a lot, if we need to fire to go without putting more wood in for more than 8 hours, then we will put in some larch, but pine puts out good heat and we have never had bad creosote build up from it. I guess it all comes down to the kind of pine it is.
Dieselhead said:Jake that black smoke is only on startup? I have 2 50' pines im gonna be dropping this spring figured id get some wood out of them. Dont know how to tell if white pines or some other species of pine though.
Carbon_Liberator said:The myth that pine causes chimney fires is of Eastern origin, and it has a bit of biased truth to it. It probably developed something like this....
You take your typical Easterner who, year after year, burns predominantly unseasoned Oak, blissfully developing a good thick coating of creosote in his chimney. Eventually one day he finds, or someone offers him, some nice dry Pine. He then proceeds to burn a load of this nice dry Pine in the same manner as he usually burns the wet Oak expecting much the same sort of results, but instead the fire burns much hotter (the way it is suppose to) than it has ever done in the past, thus igniting the creosote, that has been developing in the chimney for years, and he has a huge chimney fire. The fire department comes and puts out the fire (hopefully saving his house and family), later the fire chief asks the homeowner how the fire got started? To which the homeowner replies, �all I did was burn a load of Pine.� Thus perpetuating the myth that the Pine was the �cause� of the chimney fire and it is "dangerous" to burn in your stove.
Just remember the significant difference between pine and oak (if oak is what you're use to burning) is that pine not only seasons faster than oak, it also burns faster and hotter too.
:lol: you know ugga, I've posted that theory in this forum a few times now, I kind of expected I would see a little more protest (and flack) from it than I have, especially considering that the bulk of the members here are Easterners, however it has gone virtually unchallenged, I'm guessing it's because there must be a ring of truth to it,,,, or maybe it's because Easterners are far too polite to point out when somebody may be mistaken. ;-)uggabugga said:Carbon_Liberator said:The myth that pine causes chimney fires is of Eastern origin, and it has a bit of biased truth to it. It probably developed something like this....
You take your typical Easterner who, year after year, burns predominantly unseasoned Oak, blissfully developing a good thick coating of creosote in his chimney. Eventually one day he finds, or someone offers him, some nice dry Pine. He then proceeds to burn a load of this nice dry Pine in the same manner as he usually burns the wet Oak expecting much the same sort of results, but instead the fire burns much hotter (the way it is suppose to) than it has ever done in the past, thus igniting the creosote, that has been developing in the chimney for years, and he has a huge chimney fire. The fire department comes and puts out the fire (hopefully saving his house and family), later the fire chief asks the homeowner how the fire got started? To which the homeowner replies, �all I did was burn a load of Pine.� Thus perpetuating the myth that the Pine was the �cause� of the chimney fire and it is "dangerous" to burn in your stove.
Just remember the significant difference between pine and oak (if oak is what you're use to burning) is that pine not only seasons faster than oak, it also burns faster and hotter too.
that is an excellent theory as to how the bias against pine in the eastern US came about. makes perfect sense.
as others have said, i use their pine prejudice to my advantage..