I am looking for an insert that will function a little bit more like a freestanding stove in that it extends into the room just a bit, (unlike the more flush models a lot of people are seeking.) Regency makes a "hearth heater" that does it, but I just don't like the way it looks that much with the intake looking like a '70s muscle car on the top. Looks like the Lopi Revere and the Blaze King princess also extend out a decent amount. Are there a lot of others that do the same?
Please list inserts that extend onto hearth for more radiant heat
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regency's I2400 extends out, but doesn't have the look of the hearth heater model..i like mine..the ledge allows to place a cast iron steamer pot on to help with the humidity
Hampton I300. The bottom ash lip extends about 11 inches and the stove door about 9. My avatar is one and you can see the specs at: http://hampton-fire.com/Wood/Inserts/HI300/index.php
Still get the blower!
Still get the blower!
Napoleon makes a nice model, I think it's the 1409. My friend has one and it's a nice looking insert.
The problem you will run into with an insert sitting more out on your hearth is with the top lip on your fireplace, depending how thick that is with these top venting inserts sometimes determines how much you can put it out on the hearth. What you will want to look for is an insert that is deep enough to be able to pull it forward without hitting the chimney liner on that top lip.
Now you can get an adapter to help with this as well, but again that depends on the height of your top lip.
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Now you can get an adapter to help with this as well, but again that depends on the height of your top lip.
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You might want to check into the buck 91 since it's designed to be a free-standing stove or an insert. Based on that, I would assume it could stick out as far as you wanted it to, but I haven't looked at it closely. Keep in mind it's a big heater though...
Thanks you guys! Keep em coming! There are far more options for me here than I thought, and I really appreciate the info.
I don't necessarily need something that sticks WAY out, but yeah, would like at least a few inches or more for radiant heat and a top to set a kettle on or something.
My fireplace is plenty tall for most things, 32", but the surround does have some clearance issues that will have to be accounted for one way or another and I probably wouldn't go with the biggest stoves. Something that would put a 1430 sq foot house in the center of it's comfortable heating range, which I think would be a "medium" insert for the most part. You guys have definitely given me a lot more options whether I go new or used - thanks!
Mellow, that adapter thing is pretty cool, I never would have imagined that!
I don't necessarily need something that sticks WAY out, but yeah, would like at least a few inches or more for radiant heat and a top to set a kettle on or something.
My fireplace is plenty tall for most things, 32", but the surround does have some clearance issues that will have to be accounted for one way or another and I probably wouldn't go with the biggest stoves. Something that would put a 1430 sq foot house in the center of it's comfortable heating range, which I think would be a "medium" insert for the most part. You guys have definitely given me a lot more options whether I go new or used - thanks!
Mellow, that adapter thing is pretty cool, I never would have imagined that!
One insert not listed yet that doesn't get much attention on this site is the Country Stoves Line of Inserts made by Lennox now. The largest Canyon unit is one of my all time favorites with it's listed spec's & large firebox. I have not bought this unit yet because the wife would find another spouse that wasn't such a wood burning fanatic..
tickbitty said:
You seem to imply that this is a bad thing?
My 2cents: If you go for the Regency Hearth Heater, look closely at the firebox size. I think it's on the small side. I too desired this model, but couldn't make it fit. We are generally happy with the QF 4100i.
Take a look at everyone's suggested products online, I'm sure you'll see something that you like.
My Quadrafire 5100I sticks out on the hearth.
I have one of those decorative water containers sitting on it to add moisture to the air.
I have one of those decorative water containers sitting on it to add moisture to the air.
Hurricane said:
Yeah the 5100i sits 10 1/2" out on the hearth, I had to extend my hearth out because of it.
granpajohn said:
It's a GREAT thing, on a '70's muscle car. Actually, if stoves would keep paint, I could paint a Regency Hearth Heater bright yellow, with big black race stripes right across that hood, just like a Super Bee, and THEN it would also look great on a woodstove to me! Lol. Thanks for the input. I am getting a lot of really good names here to look into. Regency was actually pretty clever to name theirs a "hearth heater" because I suspect, from the sounds of all these, that that is a desirable thing, people who want a bit more of what a freestanding stove would give but don't want to - or can't, pull it completely out into the room, so they go kinda hybrid with the inserts that stick out. But Regency gave it a name. Thanks, will look at the Quads too!
Yeah, that's what I'm talkin about! No, Wait, make it an El Camino (or Ranchero as the case may be) and then I can carry WOOD in it!
Napoleon 1402. That's what I have. Very happy with it. Also think that the PE inserts stick out some as well
You know you can have a freestanding stove installed in front of the hearth and run the pipe up the chimney, right?
The guy across the street did exactly that with this puny little fireplace he had in the basement. It's not much of a fireplace but as a portal for the stoves chimney it works quite well.
The guy across the street did exactly that with this puny little fireplace he had in the basement. It's not much of a fireplace but as a portal for the stoves chimney it works quite well.
OK, a little more of the usual stuff.
The Hearth Heater is very nicely designed to fit onto a raised brick hearth, (like mine). But if you look at the drawings, it is basically an ordinary Regency stove with a surround to block off the old fireplace, and the legs cut off. This is not much different than the stove set onto the hearth and piped up the chimney that folks have mentioned.
But, once you get into this, keep an eye on the clearance to combustibles, if you have a wood mantle. That's one reason Regency has that hood scoop. Without it, the clearance gets to be a lot; just like a Jotul Oslo. (Another one I tried to make fit.)
And, you must think ahead to how you will clean the chimney without having to move 400 pounds of stove every year. That was the killer for me. I now clean my QF with ease by removing the interior baffle.
These are some reasons that inserts are convenient. They are still just a welded box of fire set into the old FP, but they are more convenient (and thus less expensive labor-wise) to install.
The Hearth Heater is very nicely designed to fit onto a raised brick hearth, (like mine). But if you look at the drawings, it is basically an ordinary Regency stove with a surround to block off the old fireplace, and the legs cut off. This is not much different than the stove set onto the hearth and piped up the chimney that folks have mentioned.
But, once you get into this, keep an eye on the clearance to combustibles, if you have a wood mantle. That's one reason Regency has that hood scoop. Without it, the clearance gets to be a lot; just like a Jotul Oslo. (Another one I tried to make fit.)
And, you must think ahead to how you will clean the chimney without having to move 400 pounds of stove every year. That was the killer for me. I now clean my QF with ease by removing the interior baffle.
These are some reasons that inserts are convenient. They are still just a welded box of fire set into the old FP, but they are more convenient (and thus less expensive labor-wise) to install.
tiber said:
Yeah, I know... don't really have enough room for that, but need something kinda half (or more than half) in and several inches out. I can do that with a stove, I know, but it seems like the inserts are better equipped for both blowing out the heat (when you got power) as well as for blocking off the FP. With all these stoves to choose from that folks are listing here, I can probably find a nice one, but it is good to know that some stoves will work similarly. Thx!
granpajohn said:
Excellent point re: the superbee scoop. Had not checked the clearances. (or the firebox and etc) but will do so. I do have a wood surround and already have some issues on clearances. Perhaps if there is NOT an issue with that one that would be a point in it's favor.
My Country Flame BBF insert will extend out into the hearth as well. It is a big cat stove with a 3.9 cu ft firebox and also is available as a freestanding unit. It is similar to the Buck 91 mentioned earlier.
My extends about 10". I also had to extend the hearth area.
I'd think the new PE Super would have about the same extension, from what I've seen of it.
I'd think the new PE Super would have about the same extension, from what I've seen of it.
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