Rough newer Blaze King

[realstihl]

Looks like the top and ash lip on these are not very heavy guage metal. (broken link removed to http://kansascity.craigslist.org/hsh/4714831138.html)

 

[webby3650]

They are plenty heavy. That one has just been dropped. That doesn't sound like a bad deal at all though. Especially if the cat is good.

 

[HotCoals]

man,wonder how he did that!
Yep,that's cheap.

 

[ian105]

That lip could be fixed by heating with a torch,bending and re-painting. Its not going to be perfect but even if the CAT is shot, thats' a heck of a deal. A local weld shop could probably repair if you don't have the equipment

 

[jeff_t]

The cat probably didn't survive the drop
Could be a good buy.

Still annoys the heck out of me when people put stoves up for sale and don't bother to clean them up.

 

[mellow]

I would jump on that in a heartbeat, hope it didn't throw the bi-metallic spring out of whack, that would be one of the first things I would check besides welds.

 

[Dieselhead]

The heel on her glass slipper must have broke

 

[Jags]

Looks like it was pushed out of the back of a truck.

 

[Highbeam]

And when they flopped it back upright the last side that came up was the left as viewed from the front. See how all the ash is over on the one side? So it was moved and dropped while full of ash. Must have been pretty heavy.

 

[begreen]

Looks like a good deal for someone in KC.

 

[realstihl]

What a shame. Like said, it must have took a big hit or drop.

 

[Parallax]

How old is that Princess? They've been making them for a long time. Is it EPA approved?

 

[daleeper]

Thanks, realstihl for the heads up on that listing. I now have it in the back of my pickup, and a pipe wrench and cheater pipe pretty well straightened out those bends. Not perfect, but will do. Waiting on my wife to bring home a rattle can of paint.

She was built in Nov. 2007 and hasn't seen a whole lot of wood. No cat, but the door is good, and looks like the thermostat is good, at least it turns smoothly. The left side shield also has a dent in it, and a couple of bricks broken, but they will work fine for now.

The owner said the bends were there when she got the stove, so I don't know the story on how it got bent, but would guess it was dropped. Nothing else shows any stress though. The door would have had to have been damaged at the same time, and the one that is on it is fine.

Cost for new cat, and a few other odds and ends will take it out of super bargain range, but still a good deal for a stove that should have lots of years left in it. The King will be assigned to the shop for duty. The princess should be a better fit for my stove room. Makes me look forward to winter. Not.

 

[daleeper]

Guess I should ask you guys, are the rails a requirement for the fan assembly to fasten to on the top side? They did not make it with the stove.

 

[Rossco]

Good deal that. Beat up or not.

Looking at $3k for one here. IDE a snapped that up if it was local to me.

For a basement install I wouldn't even bother dressing it up too much.

Good buy

 

[daleeper]

Well here are the before and after shots, not the best photos, but hopefully show what has been done.

 

[realstihl]

Well here are the before and after shots, not the best photos, but hopefully show what has been done.
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I'm glad it worked out for you. Still a pretty good deal. Give us some pics or video when you get her up and running.

 

[Woody Stover]

They are plenty heavy.

435 ain't all that heavy, barely more than a MIL.The mighty Buck is almost 200 lbs. more. So why the higher price, the thermostat? That said, I would be all over that thing.

 

[webby3650]

435 ain't all that heavy, barely more than a MIL.The mighty Buck is almost 200 lbs. more. So why the higher price, the thermostat? That said, I would be all over that thing.

I was referring to the top and ash lip being made from metal that was heavy enough.
And ya, the stove isn't all that heavy compared to some others. That doesn't mean much though. If a stove weighs 1,000 pounds and only gets an 8 hour burn, who cares! It's all about the thermostat!

 

[Woody Stover]

If a stove weighs 1,000 pounds and only gets an 8 hour burn, who cares! It's all about the thermostat!

You can probably answer this as you had one, I think. Did you ever measure that actual loadable firebox volume of the King?

 

[webby3650]

You can probably answer this as you had one, I think. Did you ever measure that actual loadable firebox volume of the King?

No, I never saw the need to measure it. Easy 40 hour burns was good enough for me. 24 hour burns in the dead of winter are awesome!

 

[jeff_t]

I get between 18.5-21" deep, because of the slanted front, 24" wide is practical, and 15.5" from the brick on the bottom to the bottom of the cat housing. There is a little space on the top, between the cat housing and the sides of the stove. If I have the right splits, I can get a couple in there.

It comes out close to the advertised 4.3 cu ft.

How does the Buck measure up?

 

[Woody Stover]

It comes out close to the advertised 4.3 cu ft. How does the Buck measure up?

They claim 4.4 but I measure it right at 3.0, so just a bit larger than the Princess. I'd have to measure it but I think your 15.5" height is where the real difference in volume is. I could get a little wood where you said you could, at the sides where the cat shield isn't in the way. The firebox tapers in at the back, so sometimes I put a couple tapered splits on the sides, in effect squaring the box off. I just wish there were some better way to compare stoves. If you look at the EPA numbers, the Buck blows the King and Princess away in emissions, and low- and high-end output. I don't see how that could possibly be, though. I guess that unless you run both stoves yourself, there's really no other way to know, not even testimonials from others who have run the stove that you would like to compare yours to. BTW, the Buck is almost 300 lbs. heavier than a Princess.
I've replace all the gaskets in the Buck with OEM and tweaked how the ash pan gasket seals, so I should be able to get longer burns at lower output. I don't need them right now, though, since I need a higher burn rate to combat adverse heating conditions at my MIL's house (stove at one end of the house in a room with glass on 3.5 sides, no wall insulation, 9.5' ceilings, etc.) It is still very easy to load on a 12-hr. schedule. In fact, I have to make sure I don't put too much wood in, or there won't be enough room to re-load. I'm putting some 3M outside window film on the stove room and blowing additional insulation in the ceiling, so I hope to have the old lady peeling off clothes and begging for mercy this season.

 

[Woody Stover]

Well here are the before and after shots, not the best photos, but hopefully show what has been done.

Looks like a smokin' deal to me!

 

[webby3650]

They claim 4.4 but I measure it right at 3.0, so just a bit larger than the Princess. I'd have to measure it but I think your 15.5" height is where the real difference in volume is. I could get a little wood where you said you could, at the sides where the cat shield isn't in the way. The firebox tapers in at the back, so sometimes I put a couple tapered splits on the sides, in effect squaring the box off. I just wish there were some better way to compare stoves. If you look at the EPA numbers, the Buck blows the King and Princess away in emissions, and low- and high-end output. I don't see how that could possibly be, though. I guess that unless you run both stoves yourself, there's really no other way to know, not even testimonials from others who have run the stove that you would like to compare yours to. BTW, the Buck is almost 300 lbs. heavier than a Princess.
I've replace all the gaskets in the Buck with OEM and tweaked how the ash pan gasket seals, so I should be able to get longer burns at lower output. I don't need them right now, though, since I need a higher burn rate to combat adverse heating conditions at my MIL's house (stove at one end of the house in a room with glass on 3.5 sides, no wall insulation, 9.5' ceilings, etc.) It is still very easy to load on a 12-hr. schedule. In fact, I have to make sure I don't put too much wood in, or there won't be enough room to re-load. I'm putting some 3M outside window film on the stove room and blowing additional insulation in the ceiling, so I hope to have the old lady peeling off clothes and begging for mercy this season.

It is hard to compare stoves, especially when the reported efficiencies and BTU's are so different between two seemingly comparable stoves. Unfortunately, efficiency ratings can't be used wih confidence as a comparison with most stoves. If you look at the EPA hang tags on almost every stove, they will say that the stated effeicency isn't the actual number that was found in testing, instead a more desirable "default" number was allowed. Very few manufacturers use the actual test results on the tag, BK,Woodstock, Lopi cape cod just to name a few that come to mind. BTU's, now that's whole other can of worms. Low heat values, high heat values.... Maybe BKVP will see this and elaborate on the topic.