Seasoning firewood

[Cluttermagnet]

Hey guys- the OP was on Friday the 13th. Troll?

Nice wood stacks.

I don't like feeling paranoid. Fortunately I have friends with wood they don't need.

 

[njpatriot]

GREAT Info on this site. I have been visiting it for a couple of years and finally decided to become a member. My friends and I are definitely wood scroungers...if we find out that there is firewood to be had, we go and get it. We don't always know if it is for the taking though, in which case we end up "cuttin' paranoid"and worry that someone is going to show up and say we can't have it...no trespassing laws have been broken yet! Sometimes it is questionable though. Here are some pictures of the loot. Wood piles for 2009-10, 2010-11, and just started for 2012.

It's hard to understand if you are not sure who's wood it is, why would you take it.

Zap

I'm guessing for the thrill of the chase or the adrenaline rush.

Someday you might be "scrounging" or how I see it....stealing from someone that is very good with a sidearm. I know you wouldn't want to be caught getting wood off of properties around me. BTW, no houses for miles, but privately owned. Easy for folks to get lost and never be seen again.......

Oh Yeh, love the wood stack, pile pics

I am sure that Cuttin P is not stealing wood off residential properties. There is quite a bit of land up here in North Jersey devestated by the power companies clearing all that grows, and then leaving it to rot on the ground. There are hoards of us that scrounge these sites which are all covered by an easment with the power company, owned by the Federal and State Govt. A large amount of our tax money is sent to our "urban education / abbott districts" for the politicians to liquidate. Downed wood left to rot is a recipe for disaster if a forest fire starts. I say take all of that wood that is left by these power companies, just keep looking over your shoulder to get a head start while being chased. Oh yeah, Varna where in South Jersey is there anyone who is good with a sidearm? Maybe shooting at sqiurrels with a 22lr.

 

[lpp5855]

From Glacialhills: [I was wondering the same thing ZAP. Why is everyone congratulating a person on a nice wood stack that does not ask permission to cut and take wood from unknown sources and are ignoring the fact that this person more than likely is stealing wood from private property? I understand if you are out and about and see wood not near someones house that its tempting to just stop and load up but just because its not in someones front yard does not mean its ok to not get permission and to just take it.That paranoid feeling you have while cutting is your guilty conscience trying(unsuccessfully) to tell you you are in the wrong. My road is very sparsely populated but I would pity the fool that got caught doing that around here. Same might happen to a dog that is found running deer. You might get the 3 S treatment.

How can you justify in your mind that you are not trespassing to get that wood if you don't own the land and have not asked the landowner? Amazing to me how a thief justifies his actions.

That wood you are "finding" just might be that landowners next years supply that he is counting on to heat his home and just has not gotten to yet and you are robbing him...no different than stealing his car or his kids bicycle.The way I see it you have about $3000.00 worth of stolen property there. You need to start asking permission and quit your woodburning thievery!

Can You tell I hate p.o.s. thieves and trespassers?

Do the right thing and change your name to Cutting with a clear conscience.[/quote]

Response
I have seen the errors in my ways. Glacial Hills will now serve as my moral compass and lead me to the path of righteousness... O.K. serious-it was a joke (an attempt at humor), No trespassing has taken place (people thank us for removing downed trees from public easements). And "cuttin paranoid" is a cool avatar (cuttin with a clear conscience doesn't sound fun). Serious again...Glacial I know you spent a lot in propane, but listen p.i.t.a. boy, the law doesn't take into account the money firewood is saving you, just what the going rate is (Please tell me you didn't spend $3,000.00 on 6.5 cords of wood).

Lastly, I will change my name to "cuttin with a clear conscience" if you do one of the following, your choice:
a. Change your name to "DopeyHills" - someone who recommends renting a storage unit for firewood can't be bright (You were kidding right?)

b. Get rid of your Sheryl Crow quote - do I have to explain it? She probably thinks burning wood is adding to global warming.

Let me know.

 

[glacialhills]

Well, I just call a spade a spade.

Since you are new here, I thought I would give you a chance to do the right thing and seek out the right state or private parties that you get your wood from but obviously you dont have a problem with taking wood without permission. When people pay well over 200 a cord to legally buy wood, they dont do it cause they would rather pay for wood, they just are not thieves, and a storage unit is 20 bucks a month why do you think that's goofy?( oh right, because you steal wood) if the guy could legally get free wood and have to pay less than 100 bucks to store it for a few months till he could refill his limited storage area he would be saving tons in the long run. I wouldn't do it, but I have plenty of storage area and plenty of wood on my own property unlike those that live in a city.And at least he would not be breaking the law.
So you justify stealing wood from public easements because? Around here you need to apply for a permit to get wood from state land, and they limit you to 5 cords a year. I bet there are guys that pay for a permit in NJ to get wood too.What if what you do convinces your state to ban wood gathering from state land all together? Why be paranoid, you make it sound like you should get a medal from the state for helping them out.And I am sure everyone else that burns wood in your area follow your example right? I bet those guys having to pay 200 or 300 a cord in your area would love to get free wood from state land, But alas, they actually follow all the laws and not just the ones they want. Why dont you give us your address and we will forward it to the state of NJ so they can come thank you and award the medal to you.

We take wood burning seriously around here, and people that steal wood, whether from someones woodpile,back 40, or public land are not welcome.

Like I said, I call a spade a spade.

 

[d.n.f.]

I am envious of your piles.




That sounds dirty.

 

[varna]

Can you guys even have a sidearm in New Jersey? ;-P (Sorry couldn't resist)

LOL...yes we actually can. I have a ccp for 27 states.....New Jersey NOT being one of them......go figure.

 

[varna]

There are hoards of us that scrounge these sites which are all covered by an easment with the power company, owned by the Federal and State Govt. just keep looking over your shoulder to get a head start while being chased.
Oh yeah, Varna where in South Jersey is there anyone who is good with a sidearm? Maybe shooting at sqiurrels with a 22lr.

I don't know about up there but down here you need a permit issued by the state to take ANY wood off of state property......legally that is..
You do live in the same state you know.

Don't you worry, we can shoot down here......

BTW you can kill anything with a 22 if you know how to shoot.....

 

[glacialhills]

I thought that was the case Varna, and you confirmed it.Your state uses a permit system for state land. I am the first one to rail against government/ nanny state intrusion Cuttin' Paranoid, but if you dont like the law then get it changed, or vote for those who will. But dont just pick and choose which laws you deem worth following. Trespassing is trespassing and stealing is stealing. Laws WERE broken and trespassing WAS committed.And I said 3000.00 because at 200 to 300 a cord(going rate in your neck of the woods) 12.5 cords of "loot" would be worth 2500.00 to 3700.00 bucks of stolen property as the law would see it.

I am glad to help be your moral compass Cuttin', obviously you need someone to.

 

[lpp5855]

Well, I just call a spade a spade.

Since you are new here, I thought I would give you a chance to do the right thing and seek out the right state or private parties that you get your wood from but obviously you dont have a problem with taking wood without permission. When people pay well over 200 a cord to legally buy wood, they dont do it cause they would rather pay for wood, they just are not thieves, and a storage unit is 20 bucks a month why do you think that's goofy?( oh right, because you steal wood) if the guy could legally get free wood and have to pay less than 100 bucks to store it for a few months till he could refill his limited storage area he would be saving tons in the long run. I wouldn't do it, but I have plenty of storage area and plenty of wood on my own property unlike those that live in a city.And at least he would not be breaking the law.
So you justify stealing wood from public easements because? Around here you need to apply for a permit to get wood from state land, and they limit you to 5 cords a year. I bet there are guys that pay for a permit in NJ to get wood too.What if what you do convinces your state to ban wood gathering from state land all together? Why be paranoid, you make it sound like you should get a medal from the state for helping them out.And I am sure everyone else that burns wood in your area follow your example right? I bet those guys having to pay 200 or 300 a cord in your area would love to get free wood from state land, But alas, they actually follow all the laws and not just the ones they want. Why dont you give us your address and we will forward it to the state of NJ so they can come thank you and award the medal to you.

We take wood burning seriously around here, and people that steal wood, whether from someones woodpile,back 40, or public land are not welcome.

Like I said, I call a spade a spade.

Glacial:

I see you defended the storage unit recommendation ($20/month is a good price!). Does that mean you are going with choice b.) and getting rid of the Cheryl Crow quote? I might be able to consider you a serious wood burner then!

Let me know. Oh...don't trust varna either...he's out cuttin' with me every weekend Got cha!

 

[bigtall]

Spade? Spade? That's racist.

 

[SmokinPiney]

Can you guys even have a sidearm in New Jersey? ;-P (Sorry couldn't resist)

LOL...yes we actually can. I have a ccp for 27 states.....New Jersey NOT being one of them......go figure.

haha you and me both! I've got the same permit, shame it don't apply to our own state. But on my property there's always a firearm within a few feet. Best not be stealin my wood.

 

[varna]

Oh...don't trust varna either...he's out cuttin' with me every weekend Got cha!

HUH? I don't think so

 

[njpatriot]

Oh...don't trust varna either...he's out cuttin' with me every weekend Got cha!

HUH? I don't think so

Now Varna, lets be honest. I believe that was you I saw with Cuttin' P taking the wood off the Garden Stte Parkway before it could all be chipped up. I think that makes you one of those "Spades" that Glacial is refering to. I also have personal knowledge that you voted for Corzine.

 

[varna]

Oh...don't trust varna either...he's out cuttin' with me every weekend Got cha!

HUH? I don't think so

Now Varna, lets be honest. I believe that was you I saw with Cuttin' P taking the wood off the Garden Stte Parkway before it could all be chipped up. I think that makes you one of those "Spades" that Glacial is refering to. I also have personal knowledge that you voted for Corzine.

NP believe what you want.....it is a shame that all that good firewood on the Parkway is going to waste, but taking it is still stealing. I didn't vote for Corzine or Christie.....

 

[njpatriot]

The Corzine shot was a joke. I figured that with 27 carry permits in different States there as no way you would have voted for Corzine, you took it well. The Parkway wood is a shame, you would think that they would at least let a mill make a bid on the clean-up job. I spoke to a Parkway/Turnpike Authority Supervisor in July who told me that as long as I was accompanied by a crew when they are cutting the trees, I could take what I wanted. They are more concerned with idiots jamming up traffic. I never did get any of that wood, too far for me to justify it.