T-6

[Spotted Owl]

For those of you that have one of these, I have a couple questions.

If you have one, would you do it again? Why or why not.

We are going to be taking out a liberty and replacing with a T6. Dealer called and said we have it on order but it will take a bit so if we change our minds we have a couple days for that. Thus the reason for the question, a last ditch wonder about the good and the not so good for this particular animal.

Would you recommend the EBT be removed? What would you do to this stove prior to install if you had it to do over again.

Warranty, burn time, btu out put, among other things have brought us to this stove.

We were/are looking for a stove that won't drive us out of the room and will still throw heat for the rest of the house seems like this is a good mix between convection and radiant for this purpose.

Did a lot of looking and reading and searching already and haven't seen this asked. It may have been but we missed it.


Thanks


Owl

 

[moosetrek]

I'll keep an eye on this too - ours is on order as well. We did a lot of digging first, and I called chimneysweeponline (http://www.chimneysweeponline.com/) and talked with them, even though we didn't order from them they were really excellent for advice and info. They had one on the floor that a forum moderator (BeGreen) bought I believe. Maybe worht a call? We also compared his price with ours to make sure we didn't get taken.

 

[Spotted Owl]

Order price was $2180. Everyone else was with in a couple hundred of that. I call ed Talked to them also and that is why we are leaning heavy towards the T6.


Owl

 

[madison]

Do it again? yes, the type of heat that comes off this stove works nice for our application, no "sun burn" so you can actually be in close proximity and not get toasted. But does a decent job of heating our glassy 3300 sqft with vaulted ceilings. It cut our nat gas use by more than 50 % in the january. and our furnace was off in the shoulder seasons.

EBT: do a search, and see that it is a "controversial" subject among the folks here, I do not think it does any harm... Remove, no, cover with foil, possibly. Search and read re EBT, you will be humored.

I believe this stove would NOT be ideal as an "intermittent burner" as it takes a bit of time to get it up to temp. I just added the blower to the back of the unit. Last yr I was still experimenting with the multiple ceiling fans in this house in attempts to move the heat to the far reaches.

Install pics avail in signature link.

 

[Highbeam]

I'm pretty sure you posted this over on Arboristsite too. Again, I would choose the T6 over the lopi. The top baffle of the PE is not that fragile ceramic stuff. I like the looks, function, and price of the cast iron clad PE over the plain metal box Lopi.

Both good brands though.

 

[snowtime]

We are happy with the T6. For shoulder season we just build small fires. I would recommend getting a door handle kit as it has lots of washers to adjust the door with. I am a firm believer in spare parts and some day you will need that new door handle.

 

[begreen]

The balance of the equation is still in favor of the T6 here. And that is after some discoveries and disappointments. It's an easy stove to run and pretty flexible. The mass of the stove works well in shoulder season burning because you can run a hot enough initial fire to keep it burning clean, but not drive yourself out of the house.

As stated on other threads, I think the ash collection system is worthless. It would be nice if PE gave the buyer the option of buying out of this adornment. Personally, I am not enamored with the EBT either. For softwood burning, I have seen increased burn times and decreased peak stove temps with it disabled.

That said, I do like the secondary system with the enclosed baffle, generous firebox, even heating, stout construction, nice aesthetics and ease of use. In our house, a convective heater works best and the Alderlea does this job very well.

 

[madison]

Owl,

Forgot to add, splurge the ~$250 for the fan, it creates a significant increase in the output, and this one I added on is extremely quiet even on high, I am impressed and glad I added it on after a suggestion from a hearth.com member, i believe "summit".

 

[jzr1]

I have a t5 and the fan rattles on high just enough to annoy you while you watch tv. On med-high it doesn't do it though.

 

[madison]

I tweaked all the screws on the back shroud when I attached the fan, you could possibly add another couple screws (as mine has only two) if that is the source of the rattle?

 

[moosetrek]

Any chance a 30-NC blower would bolt in? It's only $130- I might look into it.

 

[madison]

No clue without eyeballing the unit, the PE part took 5 mins to add

 

[ohiostork]

I have narrowed my choices down to PE T5 or T6. I come to the forum for wise advice. We are building a new house that should be completed in January. The kitchen/hearth room the stove will be setting is 15x30. It is open directly to our great room which is 24x20. The great room is 12ft ceiling while the kitchen is 9ft. The sq footage with a very open floor plan is 3000sq ft on the first floor and 1000 sq ft upstairs. We will be having our dinette table about 5-7 feet from the wood stove. Is the t-5 or t-6 better suited. We don't want to cook the kid sitting in the chair closest to the stove. We have zone heating on the furnace so I am realistically trying to use the stove to heat the central core including the great room and kitchen/dinette/hearth and halls. I don't know how much will snake up the stairs to the kids rooms. Thanks in advance.

 

[snowtime]

The T6 is convection so if you have a side next to the seat it will not overheat. We have a sofa 4" from the side and you can sit and read without overheating. Just remember most heat comes out the top and front. You have a lot of area you need the T6.

 

[madison]

stork,

our setup is pretty much what you are considering, go t6 and don't think twice. pics of setup in signature

 

[ohiostork]

Madison
Your setup is very similar. I love the stonework. Superb! I was wondering if you could tell me how far from the corner of your wall is the front door of the stove. The corners of the stove are also how far off the wall. I have read the install rec twice. Did you use double wall for closer spacing? I am having trouble figuring out how far out the hearth will be from the corner. The hearth edge should be 18" from the front of the stove door correct? Thanks for taking the time to help me out.

 

[ohiostork]

Also can someone tell me the firebox dimensions on the T6. Our local dealer has a T5 on display. I like the ability to load n/s, e/w

 

[madison]

stork,

~ 53 inches from the inside corner of the stone to the front of the ash lip.

~ 7 inches from the rear corners of the stove to the stone. I can barely squeeze around the back corners between the wall and stove.

dbl wall off the top of the stove reduces the stovepipe to wall clearance requirements and adds minimal cost.

I would suggest:
Get a piece of cardboard and cut it out to the dimensions of the stove, mark or cut a hole for the pipe in the cardboard, lay it on the floor, and then start measuring and masking taping the layout options. Leave or expect to leave extra "wiggle" room (inches) for your placement especially if you are going to change the wall material, don't minimize the area in front of the hearth, especially if you have carpet. I took a couple weeks doing this and the hearth design. There are many things you have to consider, floor protection under and in front of stove, chimney layout etc. so think it thru, or hire someone who has experience. Someone on this site may have a reputable source for your area, search and or ask. You are making permanent changes to your home, so take your time and think it through at least twice.

Finally, the wife originally thought the T5 would be a better "look" (I wanted the larger T6 all along) went to the store, and she liked the look of the T6 vs T5. Same clearances, larger firebox. The larger firebox allows for longer burns, and easier loading.

 

[ohiostork]

madison
thanks for doing those measurements. so to be clear your stove front is 53" from the corner and then the hearth slab is 18" further past that. So corner to hearth edge is about 71" ??
also can you confirm firebox dimensions for me? i am taking your advice today and making a cardboard cutout to lay on the floor.
thanks again.

 

[madison]

stork,

the floor of our room is tile on slab, so we could have set the stove right on the tile.

So, the bluestone is "decorative", and measures 65" from the corner behind the stove to the front of the bluestone, this leaves LESS than 18" (actually measures 14") from the stove door front to the front edge of the bluestone.

Bottom line, if our floor was combustionable (carpet, wood etc) and not tile, the dimension from the stove front to hearth front would NOT to be code. IF your floor is combustionable, I would add many inches to the hearth "floor", as no matter how careful you are, sparks, embers etc will end up on the floor in front of the stove.

Maybe post some pics of your room(s) and a floorplan drawing (In a new thread ?) and others will chime in.

Firebox is 3 cubic feet, it is burning now so I cannot physically measure it, but believe the actual dimensions are available, try chimneysweeponline.com for details or the PE site. The T6 is wider and allows more room and options for loading (N/S vs E/W or whatever)

 

[BrotherBart]

Any chance a 30-NC blower would bolt in? It's only $130- I might look into it.

Where did you find them for $130?

 

[ohiostork]

madison
we just got back from the store. they had a T5 on the floor but no T6. Wife is concerned the T6 is gonna look a lot larger than the T5. She likes the idea of a larger firebox but is concerned about the extra mass. As this is a focal point of "her" dinette/kitchen she wants it to be perfect.....or else. any thoughts since you saw them both at the store? the top of the T5 actually is curved so that the front actually is about 2" narrower than at its greatest girth. Is this the same with the T6? any advice on the size appearance difference is appreciated. we will be having a dining table about 60" from the ash pan if that helps. i am gonna post this as a new topic too to see if any other info is out there. thanks

 

[Spotted Owl]

Good stuff thank you


Owl

 

[madison]

Tell her the reason the t5 is in the store but not the t6 because nobody wanted to buy the t5, they all purchased t6's... just joking.

Both are curved.

 

[moosetrek]

BB, our local store carries them, but are on backorder (Sutherlands).