- Sep 30, 2007
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tar stain, see pic’s-what to use to remove it?
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You really need to be more descriptive of what your problem is.
Are you talking about the black stain on the stone pad, or the stain on the bottom of the furnace?
Are you talking about the black stain on the stone pad, or the stain on the bottom of the furnace?
Speedy White, Rutland Brick & Stone Cleaner, any variety of stone cleaners available from local brick yard.
Mike from Athens said:
Put me down for this one too... who gives a rat's patoot? (sorry for the strong language)
Here's what you have to look forward to. Maybe time to start thinking of a bigger free-standing stove in the house???? Hmmmmmmm? Yeah, quit buring tires and asphalt, that stain should go away.
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Oh geeze, lets not bash the dude for having an outdoor boiler..My brother-in-law has one too..He goes through 10 cord of hardwood to my 5 every year for the same size house..haha..
Did you see the stack and setback requirements Ohio is going to have? They are actually going to make people un-install if they don't have a big enough back yard! It looks like each state will have their own rules, but I can't imagine they'd be much different form Ohio.
Don't worry - us stove/fireplace users are probably safe. Taking away someone's woodstove would be the same as taking away your guns. "They can pry it from my cold, dead hands", or something like that...
Don't worry - us stove/fireplace users are probably safe. Taking away someone's woodstove would be the same as taking away your guns. "They can pry it from my cold, dead hands", or something like that...
I am in land use planning and the like. The City here put a moritorium on them awhile back. Each town that re-visits their comprehensive plans and in the end Zoning Oodinances are looking at OWD now. Most are allowing them with setbacks and required smoke stack heights. They are usually located around the agricultural districts and areas that are pre-dominatly rural and are zoned to stay rural. Those areas where the municipality feels that are potential growth areas for residences etc they are not allowing them.. Some places are allowign them but under Special Permit, meaning each OWB installation would be very specific and would need to obtain a special permit prior to installation.
We actually had people plopping them in the middle of high-density housing developments - places like uppity Cincinnati suburbs! One guy had a landscaping company and burned his 24/7 365-days a year with green landscape waste to heat his in ground pool. Nice!! His wife had the audacity to tell neighbors "if you don't like it, you're welcome to pay our natural gas bill".
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Ooops. Sorry. Try a scrub brush and some kerosene to remove that substance.
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Ooops. Sorry. Try a scrub brush and some kerosene to remove that substance.
oh I believe it and if you dont have regulations on them thats exactly what can happen. I am not totally against them, they have their place. Think of the farmer who lives on 500 acres..He can buy a pallet burner, which is a really big one, and heat his house, barn, milkhouse etc all off the wood on his own land..Or the logger who basically ahs the equipment to haul logs and the access to do so. In my opinion, in the rural areas they should be allowed, ie on lots greater than say 50 acres in size
Use oven cleaner, like oven off it works great. I use it on the outside of my Woodmaster as part of the summer clean
try this...
Technical Bulletin #9
REMOVING CREOSOTE STAINS FROM CONCRETE
Published courtesy of U.S. General Services Administration
THE CLEANING OR REMOVAL OF STAINS FROM CONCRETE MAY INVOLVE THE USE OF
LIQUIDS, DETERGENTS OR SOLVENTS WHICH MAY RUN OFF ON ADJACENT MATERIAL,
DISCOLOR THE CONCRETE OR DRIVE THE STAINS DEEPER INTO POROUS CONCRETE.
USE THE PRODUCTS AND TECHNIQUES DESCRIBED HERE ONLY FOR THE COMBINATIONS
OF DIRT/STAIN AND CONCRETE SPECIFIED.
PART 1---GENERAL
A. This procedure includes guidance on removing creosote staining from concrete
using a poultice containing benzene.
B. Safety Precautions:
1. DO NOT save unused portions of stain-removal materials.
2. DO NOT store any chemicals in unmarked containers.
3. EXCELLENT VENTILATION MUST BE PROVIDED WHEREVER ANY SOLVENT IS
USED. USE RESPIRATORS WITH SOLVENT FILTERS.
4. NOTE: SOME OF THE SOLVENTS LISTED ARE KNOWN CARCINOGENS AND
MAY BE BANNED IN SOME STATES.
5. No use of organic solvents indoors should be allowed without substantial air
movement. Use only spark-proof fans near operations involving flammable
liquids.
6. Provide adequate clothing and protective gear where the chemicals are
indicated to be dangerous.
7. Have available antidote and accident treatment chemicals where noted.
PART 2---PRODUCTS
2.01 MATERIALS
NOTE: Chemical products are sometimes sold under a common name. This usually means
that the substance is not as pure as the same chemical sold under its chemical name. The
grade of purity of common name substances, however, is usually adequate for stain
removal work, and these products should be purchased when available, as they tend to be
less expensive. Common names are indicated below by an asterisk (*).
A. Benzene (C6H6):
1. A colorless, volatile, flammable, toxic, liquid, aromatic hydrocarbon used in
organic synthesis, as solvent and as a motor fuel.
2. Other chemical or common names include Benzol; Benzole; Phene; Phenyl
hydride; Coal naphtha*; Motor benzol*.
3. Potential Hazards: FLAMMABLE.
4. Available from automotive supply distributor, chemical supply house, dry
cleaning supply distributor, hardware store or paint store.
5. Benzene and benzine should not be confused. Benzene is a distinct chemical
compound obtained from coal tar. Benzine is a mixture of aromatic
hydrocarbons of similar boiling points derived from petroleum.
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B. Filler material such as hydrated lime, talc or whiting
C. Mineral water
D. Clean dry towels for blotting the area after treatment
E. Scouring powder
F. Clean, potable water
2.02 EQUIPMENT
A. Glass or ceramic container for mixing the solution
B. Wooden utensil for stirring the ingredients
C. Wood or plastic spatula
D. Stiff bristle brushes (non-metallic)
PART 3---EXECUTION
3.01 PREPARATION
A. Protection:
1. Provide adequate wash solutions (i.e. water, soap and towels) before starting
the job.
2. Whenever acid is used, the surface should be thoroughly rinsed with water as
soon as its action has been adequate. Otherwise it will continue etching the
concrete even though the stain is gone.
3.02 APPLICATION
NOTE: DO NOT TRY MORE THAN ONE TREATMENT ON A GIVEN AREA UNLESS THE
CHEMICALS USED FROM PRIOR TREATMENT HAVE BEEN WASHED AWAY.
A. Mix a poultice by selecting the quantity of hydrated lime, powdered talc or whiting
needed to cover the affected area. Add Benzene and mix to form a thick paste.
B. Thoroughly wet the concrete surface to be treated with clean, clear water.
C. Apply the poultice mixture to the stained area using a wood or plastic spatula and
allow to dry. Be sure to spread the poultice well beyond the stained area. The
liquid portion of the paste will migrates into the concrete where it will dissolve
some of the staining material. Then the liquid will gradually move back beyond the
concrete surface and into the poultice, where it will evaporate, leaving the
dissolved staining material in the poultice.
D. When the poultice has dried, brush or scrape it off with a wooden scraper.
E. Using a stiff bristle brush, scrub the surface with scouring powder and clean water
to remove any residual staining.
F. Thoroughly rinse the area with clean, clear water and allow to dry.
G. Repeat the process as necessary to sufficiently remove the stain.
This is from
Greenwood tips
Technical Bulletin #9
REMOVING CREOSOTE STAINS FROM CONCRETE
Published courtesy of U.S. General Services Administration
THE CLEANING OR REMOVAL OF STAINS FROM CONCRETE MAY INVOLVE THE USE OF
LIQUIDS, DETERGENTS OR SOLVENTS WHICH MAY RUN OFF ON ADJACENT MATERIAL,
DISCOLOR THE CONCRETE OR DRIVE THE STAINS DEEPER INTO POROUS CONCRETE.
USE THE PRODUCTS AND TECHNIQUES DESCRIBED HERE ONLY FOR THE COMBINATIONS
OF DIRT/STAIN AND CONCRETE SPECIFIED.
PART 1---GENERAL
A. This procedure includes guidance on removing creosote staining from concrete
using a poultice containing benzene.
B. Safety Precautions:
1. DO NOT save unused portions of stain-removal materials.
2. DO NOT store any chemicals in unmarked containers.
3. EXCELLENT VENTILATION MUST BE PROVIDED WHEREVER ANY SOLVENT IS
USED. USE RESPIRATORS WITH SOLVENT FILTERS.
4. NOTE: SOME OF THE SOLVENTS LISTED ARE KNOWN CARCINOGENS AND
MAY BE BANNED IN SOME STATES.
5. No use of organic solvents indoors should be allowed without substantial air
movement. Use only spark-proof fans near operations involving flammable
liquids.
6. Provide adequate clothing and protective gear where the chemicals are
indicated to be dangerous.
7. Have available antidote and accident treatment chemicals where noted.
PART 2---PRODUCTS
2.01 MATERIALS
NOTE: Chemical products are sometimes sold under a common name. This usually means
that the substance is not as pure as the same chemical sold under its chemical name. The
grade of purity of common name substances, however, is usually adequate for stain
removal work, and these products should be purchased when available, as they tend to be
less expensive. Common names are indicated below by an asterisk (*).
A. Benzene (C6H6):
1. A colorless, volatile, flammable, toxic, liquid, aromatic hydrocarbon used in
organic synthesis, as solvent and as a motor fuel.
2. Other chemical or common names include Benzol; Benzole; Phene; Phenyl
hydride; Coal naphtha*; Motor benzol*.
3. Potential Hazards: FLAMMABLE.
4. Available from automotive supply distributor, chemical supply house, dry
cleaning supply distributor, hardware store or paint store.
5. Benzene and benzine should not be confused. Benzene is a distinct chemical
compound obtained from coal tar. Benzine is a mixture of aromatic
hydrocarbons of similar boiling points derived from petroleum.
Greenwood Technologies, LLC Page 2 of 2
B. Filler material such as hydrated lime, talc or whiting
C. Mineral water
D. Clean dry towels for blotting the area after treatment
E. Scouring powder
F. Clean, potable water
2.02 EQUIPMENT
A. Glass or ceramic container for mixing the solution
B. Wooden utensil for stirring the ingredients
C. Wood or plastic spatula
D. Stiff bristle brushes (non-metallic)
PART 3---EXECUTION
3.01 PREPARATION
A. Protection:
1. Provide adequate wash solutions (i.e. water, soap and towels) before starting
the job.
2. Whenever acid is used, the surface should be thoroughly rinsed with water as
soon as its action has been adequate. Otherwise it will continue etching the
concrete even though the stain is gone.
3.02 APPLICATION
NOTE: DO NOT TRY MORE THAN ONE TREATMENT ON A GIVEN AREA UNLESS THE
CHEMICALS USED FROM PRIOR TREATMENT HAVE BEEN WASHED AWAY.
A. Mix a poultice by selecting the quantity of hydrated lime, powdered talc or whiting
needed to cover the affected area. Add Benzene and mix to form a thick paste.
B. Thoroughly wet the concrete surface to be treated with clean, clear water.
C. Apply the poultice mixture to the stained area using a wood or plastic spatula and
allow to dry. Be sure to spread the poultice well beyond the stained area. The
liquid portion of the paste will migrates into the concrete where it will dissolve
some of the staining material. Then the liquid will gradually move back beyond the
concrete surface and into the poultice, where it will evaporate, leaving the
dissolved staining material in the poultice.
D. When the poultice has dried, brush or scrape it off with a wooden scraper.
E. Using a stiff bristle brush, scrub the surface with scouring powder and clean water
to remove any residual staining.
F. Thoroughly rinse the area with clean, clear water and allow to dry.
G. Repeat the process as necessary to sufficiently remove the stain.
This is from
Greenwood tips
YA who gives a Rats A##,I hate smoke dragons any way. problem is you let it happen stop the problem the make it look pretty.My_3_Girls said:
go to the auto store and get some brake cleaner.that will clean up the stove.dont know about concrete.
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