Tariff Wars

[wooduser]

Are the tariffs on steel having an affect on price, with stoves shipped into the United States, such as from Canada?

If they haven't, are they likely to? Any idea how that might affect product availability and competition between American and Canadian manufacturers?

 

[bholler]

Are the tariffs on steel having an affect on price, with stoves shipped into the United States, such as from Canada?

If they haven't, are they likely to? Any idea how that might affect product availability and competition between American and Canadian manufacturers?

They are having an effect on all steel products even ones made here with amarican steel. Like it or not it is a glodal market and global changes effect domestic prices as well.

 

[wooduser]

They are having an effect on all steel products even ones made here with amarican steel. Like it or not it is a glodal market and global changes effect domestic prices as well.

How much? And who is being advantaged or disadvantaged?

 

[bholler]

How much? And who is being advantaged or disadvantaged?

We have seen increases as much as 20%. And the end user is being disadvantaged.

 

[ratsrepus]

this could become very political, So Im not going to comment. Id like to

 

[bholler]

this could become very political, So Im not going to comment. Id like to

I am sure that was the intention of the origonal poster. It will be closed quickly if it gets out of hand.

 

[PaulOinMA]

If anyone wants to read a really good book: "Making Steel: Sparrows Point and the Ride and Ruin of American Industrial Might." Great read. Not too late to ask Santa.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0252072332/?tag=hearthamazon-20

 

[PaulOinMA]

I have a BBQ smoker. A backyard one, not a trailer, and even that's 400+ pounds. I imagine it's hard being in the business of making smokers these days, too.

 

[osagebow]

Steel changes fast. The "Dorothy" furnace in Duquesne my father worked at won an industry award in December '83 and was slated to be closed 5 months later. Chipped ham sammiches....

 

[blades]

tariffs- ink wasn't even on the paper yet and steel prices jumped 10-15% - similar to petroleum products somebody sneezes in the mid east and fuel prices jump. If they would do away with futures trading likely would not see this. Was a time when that didn't exist- things were not so volatile.

 

[Seasoned Oak]

China removes tariffs on yet another 2 million metric tons of Soy Beans. HUGE win for the American Farmer! Media silent! So it appears the threat of tariffs can have positive results for the us. To all the tariff naysayers ,tariffs are not the end goal but the bargaining chip .

 

[Seasoned Oak]

I have a BBQ smoker. A backyard one, not a trailer, and even that's 400+ pounds. I imagine it's hard being in the business of making smokers these days, too.

I want one of those!

 

[bholler]

China removes tariffs on yet another 2 million metric tons of Soy Beans. HUGE win for the American Farmer! Media silent! So it appears the threat of tariffs can have positive results for the us. To all the tariff naysayers ,tariffs are not the end goal but the bargaining chip .

I hope it works out in our favor and goes against historical trends.

 

[PaulOinMA]

… I want one of those!

It's a Pitt's & Spitt's U2436. Got it in 2009 off the classifieds at thesmokering.com, barely used, for 1/3 the price of new. Looks like it was only used a few times. Person was having a house built and was putting in a stone backyard BBQ.

Custom made Smokers from Houston, Texas by Pitts & Spitts

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pittsandspitts.com

Check out the classidfieds there. I have other BBQ web sites bookmarked, too. let me see if they also have classifieds.

The Smoke Ring

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www.thesmokering.com

 

[PaulOinMA]

Here are the other BBQ sites I have bookmarked ...

The BBQ BRETHREN FORUMS. - Powered by vBulletin

The BBQ Brethren Forums. The Premiere BBQ Knowledge base on the Internet.

www.bbq-brethren.com

THEQJOINT.COM

Forsale Lander

www.theqjoint.com

 

[Seasoned Oak]

Even though Europe has been sanctioned by the WTO for Subsidizing airbus they still wont lower their tariffs defying the courts they agreed to comply with. Most other countries play dirty when it comes to trade as there is so much to profit from by cheating. Been dumping on us for too long.

 

[Sawset]

They are having an effect on all steel products even ones made here with amarican steel. Like it or not it is a glodal market and global changes effect domestic prices as well.

I'm not seeing it.
Prices seem to be a speculation blip, then business as usual.
What am I missing.

Steel import price index

Import Price Index (End Use): Iron and Steel Mill Products - Semifinished

Graph and download economic data for Import Price Index (End Use): Iron and Steel Mill Products - Semifinished (IR141) from Dec 1980 to Dec 2022 about end use, iron, mills, steel, imports, production, price index, indexes, price, and USA.

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Steel price index charts search

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Individual price index charts by catagory

Producer Price Index by Commodity: Metals and Metal Products: Iron and Steel

Graph and download economic data for Producer Price Index by Commodity: Metals and Metal Products: Iron and Steel (WPU101) from Jan 1926 to Sep 2024 about iron, steel, metals, commodities, PPI, inflation, price index, indexes, price, and USA.

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Producer Price Index by Commodity: Metals and Metal Products: Steel Mill Products

Graph and download economic data for Producer Price Index by Commodity: Metals and Metal Products: Steel Mill Products (WPU1017) from Jan 1939 to Sep 2024 about mills, steel, metals, commodities, PPI, inflation, price index, indexes, price, and USA.

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Producer Price Index by Commodity: Metals and Metal Products: Fabricated Steel Plate

Graph and download economic data for Producer Price Index by Commodity: Metals and Metal Products: Fabricated Steel Plate (WPU10760102) from Dec 2001 to Aug 2024 about fabrication, steel, metals, commodities, PPI, inflation, price index, indexes, price, and USA.

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[PaulOinMA]

The place where I bought a skid plate from has halted production for now due to raw material costs.

VW Skid Plates

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www.dieselgeek.com

Due to the US tariffs on aluminum and steel, the price we must pay for those materials has moved far too high to allow us to produce new skid plates in the near future. We are hoping that the tariffs get lifted soon but if that doesn't happen it will be uneconomical to run more skid plates until new US aluminum and steel mills come online sometime in 2020. If you see your car listed to the left we still have skid plates in stock for those cars.

 

[begreen]

Lots of infrastructure projects are dealing with cost overruns due to the tariffs.

Steel Tariffs and Hot Economy Take Toll on Infrastructure Projects

State and local governments could have to pay millions more to finance projects as the Trump administration’s steel tariffs, combined with a strong economy and a tight labor market, push up construction costs.

www.wsj.com

And now more tariffs are going into effect. So far they have cost the American taxpayers about $80 billion.

Tracking the Economic Impact of Tariffs

How are tariffs and trade tensions affecting the U.S. economy? Tax Foundation experts provide leading analysis on the economic impact of Trump's trade war.

taxfoundation.org

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[Sawset]

Lots of infrastructure projects are dealing with cost overruns due to the tariffs.

Steel Tariffs and Hot Economy Take Toll on Infrastructure Projects

State and local governments could have to pay millions more to finance projects as the Trump administration’s steel tariffs, combined with a strong economy and a tight labor market, push up construction costs.

www.wsj.com

And now more tariffs are going into effect. So far they have cost the American taxpayers about $80 billion.

Tracking the Economic Impact of Tariffs

How are tariffs and trade tensions affecting the U.S. economy? Tax Foundation experts provide leading analysis on the economic impact of Trump's trade war.

taxfoundation.org

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That's one perspective from a news organization.
Or another:

The Steel Tariff and Construction Cost: Putting It Into Context

On March 8, 2018, President Trump signed an order to place a 25% and 10% tariff on steel and aluminum imports, respectively, effective March 23, 2018. The new tariff granted a temporary exemption to certain countries including Canada, Mexico, Argentina, Australia, Brazil, South Korea, and the...

archinect.com

 

[begreen]

Good article, so was the conservative WSJ article. The architect article is mostly theoretical and ends up saying - stayed tuned. It touches on two things that large infrastructure projects may experience. In reality there are also delays and uncertainty due to escalating tariffs which have boosted costs considerably in addition to the tariff costs. The actual result is infrastructure costs are coming in much higher.

Steel Tariffs Impact U.S. Infrastructure Projects

Infrastructure projects across the U.S. are not facing approval challenges lately as lawmakers give bipartisan support to funding. However, some projects may have another hurdle to jump—cost increases because of President Donald Trump’s steel tariffs. News outlets reported earlier this week that...

www.pumpsandsystems.com

Backfire Economics: Steel Tariffs Take a Toll on Infrastructure Projects

More evidence that Trump's trade war and steel tariffs are backfiring, and putting the US economy at great risk.

www.aei.org

Trump's Tariffs Continue Harm on Construction | Best Lawyers

Whether you're protecting yourself from cost increases, delays, or default, the following advice can ensure your construction contract endures Trump's tariffs

www.bestlawyers.com

 

[begreen]

Big infrastructure projects are still going on with the costs passed along, often to the taxpayer. Unfortunately the additional costs are not so easily absorbed by small businesses. Many are hurting and will be hurt more by the Oct. and Dec. increases. That is not good. Small businesses are the backbone of our economy.

Small Businesses’ Faith in Economy Hits Low on Tariff Uncertainty

Higher tariffs on Chinese imports are adding costs and uncertainty for small businesses and dimming their outlook for the U.S. economy, according to a survey of more than 670 firms.

www.wsj.com

 

[PaulOinMA]

The guy that is dieselgeek.com, above, is a small business. No place for him to absorb a tariff of a raw material, so he had to suspend offering a product. His skid plates were really good, too. Liked it a lot.

 

[PaulOinMA]

I just noticed … has your title always been "Mooderator," not Moderator?

 

[Sawset]

Where I work, we use many 1000s of tons per year of sheet and plate steel, aluminum, stainless, galvanized, galvanneal, in many different grades thicknesses and finishes. What I'm seeing is current prices paid for incoming raw stock have stayed steady or gone down slightly from a year ago, but not up. Looking at the commodity charts above, I would have to agree with those. As far as other prices for goods coming in from abroad, I don't have enough contact with to comment.