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Super 27 on order and being anxiously awaited. Meantime...what is the best way to monitor stove temps to avoid low and high extremes with a stove like this - visually? flue thermometer? stovetop thermometer? I'm used to a flue thermometer and a combustor thermometer, but that's history now (at least the combustor thermometer is!).
 
Keep the flue thermometer and add a stove top one. I have been very pleased with the condar stove top (and pipe) thermometers.

I've been very disappointed with the rutlands I've owned.

The IR thermometer is the equalizer as you'll be able to use it to test your old stove pipe unit too.

If it were me with a new stove and was starting from scratch. I'd buy a new condar stove top unit and a new IR unit to find where the hottest place on the stove top is. Then you'll use the IR thermometer for about 200 other things around the house/garage/ kitchen/etc.

I've been happy with this IR thermometer for a few years now, but there are many on the market with good reviews. For stove use, I'd suggest buying a good unit w/ about 1000 degrees F at the top of the scale.

http://www.amazon.com/Kintrex-IRT0421-Non-Contact-Thermometer-Targeting/dp/B0017L9Q9C/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1377832217&sr=8-7&keywords=ir thermometer

BTW, know you've been around a few weeks but welcome to the site if it wasn't offered up before!

pen
 
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I agree with Pen . . . stove top thermo and probe style thermo for the flue. Together they will give you a good idea of where your stove is in terms of temps and where it is heading . . .
 
Yep, I've got the condar stove top and the condar flu probe in my pipe. I check it occasionally with my IR gun and they seem to be fairly accurate and consistent.
 
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That's one thing I don't have is a IR gun. What gun manufacturers should I consider?
 
I also got Condars, based on the numerous negative reviews of the Rutland thermometers. However, my two Condars (same model) read more than 50F apart, when set on the same spot.
 
One Condar Inferno stove-top, one Condar Flueguard probe and one IR. That's the ticket.

These $15 (shipped) DT-380 IR units are fine. I've had mine for a year and it's good for everything. Emissivity adjust and AA batteries. A lot of ebay sellers have them.
(broken link removed to http://www.ebay.com/itm/DT-380-GM300-LCD-Non-Contact-IR-Infrared-Digital-Pen-Thermometer-50-220-380-/170891904800)
 
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Bluezx636 said:
With the Auber you can just take a glance anytime you want to see whats going on and even set a Hi/Lo temp alarm.
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A PID thermocouple unit is very nice to have if you want to spend the money and time to set one up. I think it's worth it. The Auber system looks nice. I rigged up a cheaper generic PID for mine. Having an alarm is very, very nice and great piece of mind. Set it conservatively so you can catch it on the rise before it gets dangerously high. Finding a probe that works well on a stove top is a problem, though. You have to be a little creative to make it work. At least I haven't found a suitable probe yet.
 
Lance said:
Sprinter, I used a old stove top thermometer magnet, and attached K type thermocouple, washer probe to it. I posted a threadback in Feburary.https://www.hearth.com/talk/posts/1373399/
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That washer probe is what I need. I was unaware of it. Do you just put the magnet on top of the washer probe and let the magnet hold it there? I have some very strong 1/4" alnicos that should work well.
 
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I put a screw thru it, lock washer and nut. I did not take a picture of it. I have it placed under the Step Top Plate. Wire runs to the back left corner and out between the side and side shield.
 
Lance said:
I put a screw thru it, lock washer and nut. I did not take a picture of it. I have it placed under the Step Top Plate. Wire runs to the back left corner and out between the side and side shield.
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Okay. Did you calibrate the setup with an IR? I think it would be important to put the washer flat and flush to the stove top at the point you want to measure. The problem with mine was that the hardware sinked so much heat that the probe wasn't seeing the right temp. Based on your post, I'm going to buy one of these :(broken link removed to http://www.ebay.com/itm/K-Type-Thermocouple-with-14mm-id-Washer-for-Cylinder-Head-Temperature-CHT-/251326051835?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a843335fb)
and put it flat on the stovetop with a small but strong alnico magnet.

Thanks for the info.
 
Sprinter said:
Okay. Did you calibrate the setup with an IR? I think it would be important to put the washer flat and flush to the stove top at the point you want to measure. The problem with mine was that the hardware sinked so much heat that the probe wasn't seeing the right temp. Based on your post, I'm going to buy one of these :(broken link removed to http://www.ebay.com/itm/K-Type-Thermocouple-with-14mm-id-Washer-for-Cylinder-Head-Temperature-CHT-/251326051835?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a843335fb)
and put it flat on the stovetop with a small but strong alnico magnet.

Thanks for the info.
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Wow this is a much cheaper route than I was looking at! $7 for the step down transformer, $23 for the display and $4 for the K-type thermo!! Making it all look good would be the only issue, which I think I have an idea to hide it all!
Thanks guys!
 
Trilifter7 said:
Wow this is a much cheaper route than I was looking at! $7 for the step down transformer, $23 for the display and $4 for the K-type thermo!! Making it all look good would be the only issue, which I think I have an idea to hide it all!
Thanks guys!
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You shouldn't need a step down xmfr. Look for a controller that uses 120 VAC directly to avoid a power supply. This Auber controller does and goes up to 1000C, I think.http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=14 There are several pid controllers on ebay that would work as well.

You also will need an alarm. These alarms are on ebay for about $5 (broken link removed to http://www.ebay.com/itm/Safe-Alarm-AC-DC-110-Volts-Mini-Siren-Buzzer-Light-Lamp-/300717175132?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item460423f15c)

That washer style thermocouple should be perfect for stove top. Either the one from Auber or the one at ebay designed for auto cylinder heads. Or the probe type for flue.
 
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