what is everyones thoughts on the Clydesdale? How are the burn times and heat life. I get really cold winters in nny. Many nights in the negatives. I have a single story 1900 square foot ranch. How will it heat. Any other info would be great! Thanks.
THOUGHTS ON THE HEARTHSTONE CLYDESDALE
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mstoelton
Feeling the Heat
I love the Clydesdale. I have 2. I can get 5-6 hours of burn with another 2-3 hours of heat on a full load.
The Clydesdales have soapstone liners that take a little longer to heat up and then hold the heat longer once warm. This makes them have a longer and gentler heating cycle.
If your opening will fit it, I definitely recommend it. I have one on each floor of my 1600 square foot ranch. The gas heat does not run when I have them going.
The Clydesdales have soapstone liners that take a little longer to heat up and then hold the heat longer once warm. This makes them have a longer and gentler heating cycle.
If your opening will fit it, I definitely recommend it. I have one on each floor of my 1600 square foot ranch. The gas heat does not run when I have them going.
Unless the fireplace is centered in the house it will probably heat the stove end of the house better than the bedroom end. This is not a fault of the insert, it's just the nature of heating a ranch style house. How well it will heat the house depends on many things, but most important are location, ceiling height and the house's insulation. Tell us more about the place and what it takes to heat it now.
the fireplace is on one end and the bedrooms on the other. House is decently insulated. Ceiling and floor are well insulated walls are 2x4. New windows. Ceilings are all under 8'. I have and old quad 3100i right now. It feels like I have to burn on high almost all the time just to get the living room 70.
That will be a challenging layout to heat with just one stove and your current one is a bit undersized with a 1.9 cu ft firebox to heat your entire home. The Clydesdale has a bit larger firebox (2.4 cu ft) but I am not sure if that would make enough of a difference. Maybe you would need to look for a large insert in the 3 cu ft range.
On the other hand, the Quad should get your living room above 70 so there may be other problems, too. What kind of wood are you burning and how dry is it? Do you have a liner? What stovetop temps do you see? Does your chimney have a block-off plate? When you say "old", how old? Before investing in a new stove it would be good to know whether the Quad was run correctly.
Papa-Yankee-Romeo-Oscar
Burning Hunk
My thoughts are to steer far away from anything Hearthstone. Do some google searching and you'll find a whoooole lot of people that have sentiments matching mine. Hearthstone is extremely lacking in quality control and customer support. You may get a good one and you may get a piece of junk. If you wind up with a piece of junk don't expect any sympathy(or warranty support) from Hearthstone.
mstoelton
Feeling the Heat
If you check the reviews of the Clydesdale on this site, you will see that since the it was updated in 2009, the Clyde has a very positive following.
I've never burned one, nor stood next to a burning one, but I have seen one. Beautiful stove but it suffers from the need in modern aesthetics to not stick out too far into the room which causes it to have a much wider than deep firebox which, in turn, means it's a E/W loader, which means it'll never fit the quantity of wood that it would if it were turned 90 degrees.
Just one man's opinion.
mstoelton
Feeling the Heat
Both of my inserts are the model #8491 one was installed in December 2013, one was installed in Feb. 2014. I did both installs myself.
The changes as I understand consisted of improvement of the door closing/locking system and improvement of the fan which was reputed to be loud and rattle while running.
Both door closures on mine are trouble free, and both have very quiet fans. You can hear the blower fans if they are turned up high, but you are hearing the rushing of air through the baffles, no rattling at all.
We have found that once the Clydes are burning well we can set the fan at a very low setting and get all of the heat we want.
Like any EPA stove, if you are trying to burn wood that is not properly seasoned, it is not going to give good performance. With well seasoned wood the Clyde will keep our 1600 sq ft basement at ~80 f.
Due to the construction of our home the heat does not travel upstairs well, so we installed Clyde #2 in the livingroom. With both running, the gas heater in the house does not come on and the house stays in the 80 degree range.
The changes as I understand consisted of improvement of the door closing/locking system and improvement of the fan which was reputed to be loud and rattle while running.
Both door closures on mine are trouble free, and both have very quiet fans. You can hear the blower fans if they are turned up high, but you are hearing the rushing of air through the baffles, no rattling at all.
We have found that once the Clydes are burning well we can set the fan at a very low setting and get all of the heat we want.
Like any EPA stove, if you are trying to burn wood that is not properly seasoned, it is not going to give good performance. With well seasoned wood the Clyde will keep our 1600 sq ft basement at ~80 f.
Due to the construction of our home the heat does not travel upstairs well, so we installed Clyde #2 in the livingroom. With both running, the gas heater in the house does not come on and the house stays in the 80 degree range.
I've had the current model Clydesdale for going on three years now. It's easily paid for itself in savings on natural gas consumption here in Kenai, Alaska. I have no regrets on buying the Hearthstone Clydesdale.
The projection out onto the hearth is adjustable within a 4" range. The more it projects out onto the hearth, the better it can naturally convect. You would remember if you stood next to one that was fully warmed up and burning. It puts out some serious heat.
I haven't the faintest guess about it's heating capabilities and I doubt them not. But they are E/W-only loaders (which is a flaw IMO).
He knows that they only load east west and is of the opinion that is a negative. That's the way I feel too.
There are lots of good and popular E/W heaters out there. Some with big fireboxes. Most doing a fine job of heating homes. Personally I like a stove that loads N/S also, but have been in homes with a big Lopi Liberty, Clydesdale, Oslo, etc. churning out the btus with no apologies.
In other words you don't know squat about them.
Just slightly more than you (your stove envy is showing).
mstoelton
Feeling the Heat
I have two. The E/W loading does not seem to be a negative, I had a load of wood that was too long for the stove so I had to cut it in half to use it. This resulted in a bunch of short ~14 inch long splits that I loaded N/S and was able to pack the firebox. This did not have any distinguishable impact on performance.
For those who want an insert that has a large window, throws great heat, and provides great atmosphere while not sticking out into the room excessively, the clyde is great! I'm more than happy to trade N/S loading for a less obtrusive unit.
I consider a stove sticking out of the fireplace 2-3 feet a flaw! Everyone has a different view of what is best.
For those who want an insert that has a large window, throws great heat, and provides great atmosphere while not sticking out into the room excessively, the clyde is great! I'm more than happy to trade N/S loading for a less obtrusive unit.
I consider a stove sticking out of the fireplace 2-3 feet a flaw! Everyone has a different view of what is best.
Dude, what's up? You try to give Hearthstone a good bash any chance you get. They are a good, solid company. If we ever have any issues, they get addressed without any problems at all. It's unfortunate that you had such a bad experience. But I can't help but wonder how part or most of the issues you had don't originate with the dealer. Most stove companies, including hearthstone, rely on their dealers for sales and service. It's up to the dealer to provide good customer service, and to represent the brand well. It sounds like your dealer wasn't doing their job. Even If hearthstone said they weren't going to help you, your dealer should have gone to bat for you! Or made it right, even if it cut into their pocket.
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