Vigilant straight chimney cleanout into the box - need a shop vac?

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Hello,

I moved into a rental cottage in Cape Breton for the winter with an old Vigilant. Have never owned a wood stove but have used them in annual wintertime 2-week rentals for years...but this is the first time I'm doing something long-term (4 months) since I was a kid in the suburbs with a fireplace. After a few days with the stove I realized I had a lot to learn, and this site has been extremely helpful in achieving consistent behavior (and making me a bit obsessive!).

Because of the late timing of my living arrangements I could not get dry wood ordered - have 3 cords of mixed species split in December stacked in the sun and considerable wind. The owner (who is only here 1 month a year in the summer) had 1/3 cord left of some very aged rounds of birch and pine stacked; half are good dry stuff and the other half are rotten inside their skins. Aside from this have about half a cord of very dry larch staves that I had the local handyman who looks after the place chain saw for me. I'll mix the dry with the not dry and get through the season that way.

I have been going through the learning curve for about 3 weeks now and once I realized I'd spent many of those days burning overnights too cool became concerned about creosote buildup with my mixed burning techniques/fuels. I am a "girl scout" and tend to over-prepare for the worst-case scenario, especially as it's ruralsville here so an out-of-control chimney fire is not likely to get professional help inside of 25 minutes. Ordered a Chimfex and a package of Mecco red devil Fireex, and a couple of pounds of baking soda in a plastic bag are here in the meantime.

I asked the handyman (a lifetime local who also happened to renovate this house for the owner) to check out the chimney and he's coming tomorrow with brushes assuming our typical 30-50mph winds die down for a bit. I've read on other threads (link:
https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/cleaning-and-sweeping-your-own-stove-and-chimney.45585/
that it's possible to this sweep this setup top down and if the bypass damper is OPEN the detritus will just accumulate in the box and on the damper shelf where it can be removed by hand. But any tips on removing without making a huge dusty mess? Apparently this chimney's never been swept !!! so there could be considerable crud (5+ year's worth).

Vig sits in the middle of an open 20x25 living/dining/kitchen. Around 22' of 6" diameter pipe straight up through 2nd floor and attic (covered with 2" SS insulation from 2nd floor upwards). There is a flue damper (open, I never use it), but otherwise, no known obstructions. I have not experienced any draft problems, even on a rare still day but chimney cap area is black as iron. Tenants here the last two years are friends who burned daily with dry wood with no problems, but they're also the ones who joked about my upcoming chimney fire burning the green wood...:eek:



Thanks
 
Well, lots of info there, good stuff. To answer the main question. In my opinion a typical shop vac will blow a ton of soot around the house, trust me. You can get certain filters that are made for fine drywall dust but it is not the right tool for the job. You can buy one meant for the purpose but its a little pricey. Also remember that hot coal can stay hiding in a stove for days so make sure to immediately dump the mess in a safe place. Good luck.
 
not sure what type of vac you have, but my shop vac (brand) has drywall/dust bags. they are pretty cheap and lowes carries them, and i have never had any ash or soot come out the exhuast. obviously, make sure your stove is good and cold. i always get nervous when i run the shop vac around the stove area to clean up... and extra nervous when i vac out the inside (even after a solid 30+ hours of cool down and everything is shoveled out). not sure of your particular stove design, but make sure that here isn't a shelf even with the bypass open that might catch an hold some of that nasty stuff.
 
Thanks both. There is a shop vac in the basement here, a QSR Plus wet/dry 6.5 gallon device...plastic casing, looks kind of small and limited. I am leaning towards careful shoveling of the bypass shelf after the sweep, where most of the debris will accumulate. I have an ash collection bucket and a lidded can outside in the snow for transitional storage.
 
If you ever vacuum recent soot or ash, always dispose of it outside your home immediately.
 
Welcome to the forums. When I sweep top down I have a T connection. I simply pop off the cap on the bottom and attach a garbage bag to it. However, you are getting a better draft with the pipe going straight up like that. When the stove is shut down for a period of time, a piece of rubber tubing duct taped to the end of a shop vac hose will get accumulated fly ash out of hard to reach places.

I really enjoy the traditional music of Cape Breton. Enjoy your adventure out there!
 
I've been using a basic small shop vac with a sheetrock dust filter added over the pleated filter. No dust in the air. I only vacuum the stove when it has been out for an extended period and is stone cold. Otherwise I just use it on the ashlip and hearth.
 
Thanks for all the input - sweep was postponed as the roof iced up and we haven't had good conditions since.

Meanwhile I used one of those Chimney Sweeping Logs and burn a hot hot fire every morning, keeping flue temp above 300F (magnetic thermometer) for at least 30 minutes. The CSL seems to have done what it claims, based on pics (attached) I took looking up the flue before and a few days after.

Learning a lot about burning wood this winter...this site has been tremendously helpful.
 

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