What are the best medium sized stove brands?

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GrumpyDad

Minister of Fire
Feb 23, 2022
1,092
Champion, PA
I realize that is a vague question, and many favor their brand and only have experience with that brand while others are life long burners with various stoves. Some favor steel over cast iron, and vice versa. But let's talk about BRANDS.

So qualify 'good brand' with the following:
-How well their stoves perform.
-How easy it is to get it to perform. By easy, I mean you dont need to fiddle with it every 15 minutes or for that matter every hour. You can run it all day or all night without intervention for the most part.
-How safe their stoves perform. Not safe would be a stove that just doesnt hold the temperatures, smolders down, creates a ton of creosote in your chimney or conversely suddenly goes into a box full of flames and overheats and without human intervention would create a potential problem.
-SUPPORT! A company that will actually help you without having to call 900 times, send 900 emails, file a complaint with the BBB etc etc.

I see Blaze King, Pacific Energy, Jotul and other brands mentioned in here alot.

Most know I currently own a VC Dauntless, and have recently consider switching over to a Jotul after watching one in action at a store, and it was my original pick but I just couldn't get one soon enough. To avoid making the same mistake twice, to ensure a Jotul F45 was for me, I read a few threads in here and realized a continual theme: The jotul seems to have too much air coming in, making it hard to control the fire. That concerns me a bit because the reason for me swapping stoves is to allow my family to easily and safely operate the stove.

So I really want to do this right, and consider every stove for my space - but Id love to hear from everyone how they stack rank stove brands.
 

EbS-P

Minister of Fire
Jan 19, 2019
4,474
SE North Carolina
Drolet, Osborn (all of the SBI family really)
Woodstock
Lopi
Regency
 

GrumpyDad

Minister of Fire
Feb 23, 2022
1,092
Champion, PA
Drolet, Osborn (all of the SBI family really)
Woodstock
Lopi
Regency
Ah I forgot about Drolet in my thoughts recently. That was one of the first stoves I considered.
Soapstone concerned me when I looked at it. Ive seen stone go through thermal shock, it's not pretty.
 
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GrumpyDad

Minister of Fire
Feb 23, 2022
1,092
Champion, PA
It looks like the Drolet "Capetown"'s price has come way down. It's a Belgium made stove and looks quite beautiful in pictures. I suspect that drolet is trying to clear stock on that model. Anyway, it's certainly appears to be a quality piece.


since you seem to be interested in attractive looking stoves...
that does look nice. It might be a tad too big for my space though.
 

Newbie78

Feeling the Heat
Oct 5, 2022
311
Northern Alberta
It's not a big stove. Wide tho. Not deep.

and it doesn't have a hideous backside like the jotuls...

and look at the price. Probably with free delivery from myfireplaceproducts, idk. And they unequivocally stand behind their product.
 

EbS-P

Minister of Fire
Jan 19, 2019
4,474
SE North Carolina
It looks like the Drolet "Capetown"'s price has come way down. It's a Belgium made stove and looks quite beautiful in pictures. I suspect that drolet is trying to clear stock on that model. Anyway, it's certainly appears to be a quality piece.


since you seem to be interested in attractive looking stoves...
Is the entire inside refractory? Replacement parts i the future might be an issue. Plus I’m not super gentle loading my stoves.

Edit. Get a N/S loading stove
 

GrumpyDad

Minister of Fire
Feb 23, 2022
1,092
Champion, PA
Is the entire inside refractory? Replacement parts i the future might be an issue. Plus I’m not super gentle loading my stoves.

Edit. Get a N/S loading stove
Get a NS stove? Well I have one on my short list but that list may be expanding soon.
 

EbS-P

Minister of Fire
Jan 19, 2019
4,474
SE North Carolina
Get a NS stove? Well I have one on my short list but that list may be expanding soon.
Or just cut everything short enough to load north south.

is the tax credit important? 30% off a blaze king is still more expensive than a Drolet. But the Ashford 30 is a nice stove.
 

Todd

Minister of Fire
Nov 19, 2005
9,937
NW Wisconsin
I realize that is a vague question, and many favor their brand and only have experience with that brand while others are life long burners with various stoves. Some favor steel over cast iron, and vice versa. But let's talk about BRANDS.

So qualify 'good brand' with the following:
-How well their stoves perform.
-How easy it is to get it to perform. By easy, I mean you dont need to fiddle with it every 15 minutes or for that matter every hour. You can run it all day or all night without intervention for the most part.
-How safe their stoves perform. Not safe would be a stove that just doesnt hold the temperatures, smolders down, creates a ton of creosote in your chimney or conversely suddenly goes into a box full of flames and overheats and without human intervention would create a potential problem.
-SUPPORT! A company that will actually help you without having to call 900 times, send 900 emails, file a complaint with the BBB etc etc.

I see Blaze King, Pacific Energy, Jotul and other brands mentioned in here alot.

Most know I currently own a VC Dauntless, and have recently consider switching over to a Jotul after watching one in action at a store, and it was my original pick but I just couldn't get one soon enough. To avoid making the same mistake twice, to ensure a Jotul F45 was for me, I read a few threads in here and realized a continual theme: The jotul seems to have too much air coming in, making it hard to control the fire. That concerns me a bit because the reason for me swapping stoves is to allow my family to easily and safely operate the stove.

So I really want to do this right, and consider every stove for my space - but Id love to hear from everyone how they stack rank stove brands.
Where did you read the Jotul F45 has too much coming in? I guess this could be true for most non cat stoves with tall chimneys but there are ways to control this. I’ve burned a lot of stoves cat and non cat and this F45 has been the easiest and most reliable set and forget stove to burn. Other medium sized stove I think you should consider is the PE line and Lopi endeavor.
 
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begreen

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Nov 18, 2005
99,670
South Puget Sound, WA
PE Super, Lopi Endeavor, Jotul F45.
 
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Dix

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May 27, 2008
6,636
Long Island, NY
I second the PE.
 

joop

Feeling the Heat
Aug 26, 2018
322
beauharnois ,quebec
hey grumpy,i know there hard to find in the states but ja roby makes a pretty much bullet proof stove bought the ultimate in 2018 and have been burning every winter non stop have not had to do a thing with it not even change a gasket.trust me i'm not very delicate with it.changing some bricks this summer thats it.there heating beasts depending on ur wood 3 sometimes 4 hours of actual heat not the 92 hr pretend heating. have coals 15 to 20hrs after fire to light next load i love it.my house 1800's stone no insulation leaky doors.my burning wood bought so u know it ain't that dry imagine with 2yr dried oak oooooooh
 
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begreen

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Nov 18, 2005
99,670
South Puget Sound, WA
The Ultimate is a very large stove, not a medium stove. It is not a good fit for this situation and is no longer sold in the US. It looks like the largest Robys now sold in the US are the 1.9 cu ft Cook, Cicero, Chief, Cuistot, Elda, & Marmiton.
 

bholler

Chimney sweep
Staff member
Jan 14, 2014
31,958
central pa
hey grumpy,i know there hard to find in the states but ja roby makes a pretty much bullet proof stove bought the ultimate in 2018 and have been burning every winter non stop have not had to do a thing with it not even change a gasket.trust me i'm not very delicate with it.changing some bricks this summer thats it.there heating beasts depending on ur wood 3 sometimes 4 hours of actual heat not the 92 hr pretend heating. have coals 15 to 20hrs after fire to light next load i love it.my house 1800's stone no insulation leaky doors.my burning wood bought so u know it ain't that dry imagine with 2yr dried oak oooooooh
3 to 4 hours of heat from a stove that big?
 

Wildflush

Feeling the Heat
Dec 27, 2022
339
MA
We love our PE non cat Vista. This is the small one. The Super is the medium size. These stoves are very easy to use. Also like how they are made in Canada.
 

joop

Feeling the Heat
Aug 26, 2018
322
beauharnois ,quebec
The Ultimate is a very large stove, not a medium stove. It is not a good fit for this situation and is no longer sold in the US. It looks like the largest Robys now sold in the US are the 1.9 cu ft Cook, Cicero, Chief, Cuistot, Elda, & Marmiton.
oh ya i know but there smaller ones bassically same tech very idiot proof
 

bholler

Chimney sweep
Staff member
Jan 14, 2014
31,958
central pa
oh ya i know but there smaller ones bassically same tech very idiot proof
Which is the same as regency Lopi Pacific Energy and many other stoves.