Why don't people like burning pine?

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Ask them if it's "bad" to burn (non-PT) 2x4's in a stove. That's pine...
Ha yup, my buddies dad burned all the scrap 2x4's from his new house construction project, back in the 1980's, He burned them in his woodstove that he used to heat his house.
Yes you can guess what happened, he had a chimney fire.
Those fresh 2x4's can be quite sappy and wet.

After that no more 2x4's in the woodstove.
No more chimney fires.
 
If you ever make the mistake of joining any of the firewood groups on facebook, just brace yourself for those arguments, along with the ones claiming green wood burns better because it's SLOWER! dry wood burns too fast! ;hm
I heard that same old saw when in the remote mountain valleys of Bulgaria. They were burning poorly seasoned wood and filling the whole valley up with smoke within hours.
 
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This is what I got after cleaning chimney,this is after burning 5 cords jack pine
Not bad, my neighbor a mile down the road is a successful plastic surgeon, he has two cabins in Polebridge, Montana on 40 acres that I can visit whenever he's there. All they have is woodstoves and only softwood mostly pine and fir, last winter it was 35 below we stayed three days, me wife and I in the guest cabin, he and his in main cabin everybody stayed warm all night and day, burning pine.
 
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Here in Sweden pine and fir is less popular than birch. Birch is most popular, as it give reasonably good energy and is available everywhere.

No one complains about pine and fir because of sot or so. So if you have it, just burn it. I like the coal bed it creates.

We don't burn rowan. If you burn it, the house gnome (hus tomte) gets angry and moves out. And you don't want that to happen.

Rowan is also the tree, Thor grasped to pull himself out of the river.
 
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"it burns longer!" yeah because it takes 2 hours just to catch ;lol
Indeed, it's going to smolder until the moisture is boiled off.
 
Have you checked the moisture content of your hardwood? Our hardwood has ignited easily with a bon-bon size fire starter.
"...for cold start boosts."
In other words, for a heat boost before the hardwoods burn hot enough for useful heat. The pine will provide the preliminary heat till the hardwoods are burning fully. I don't use pine as ignition sticks.

I don't burn much pine at all. When I do, the above description is when I do. A split or two will do ya.
 
the norm from firewood sellers here is split, stacked, uncovered same year and selling as seasoned
and then they tell you that it’s what they are burning in their own stoves themselves. This thread here now helps me understand that they are probably not lying. They are just burning wet wood.
I’m in my first year of owning a wood stove and trying to heat the house with it in southwestern Pennsylvania. Don’t have wood on my property – – I’m in the city and I don’t have a pick up truck either so I have to buy from people who can deliver. After several bad experiences, I have now resorted to driving out to suppliers and moisture testing what they have to offer myself. And I think at this point I just need to devote part of my yard to seasoning wood myself for two winters out.

At least I know we can burn our Christmas tree when we take it down on Candlemas! That’s what I came to this thread for.
 
and then they tell you that it’s what they are burning in their own stoves themselves. This thread here now helps me understand that they are probably not lying. They are just burning wet wood.
I’m in my first year of owning a wood stove and trying to heat the house with it in southwestern Pennsylvania. Don’t have wood on my property – – I’m in the city and I don’t have a pick up truck either so I have to buy from people who can deliver. After several bad experiences, I have now resorted to driving out to suppliers and moisture testing what they have to offer myself. And I think at this point I just need to devote part of my yard to seasoning wood myself for two winters out.

At least I know we can burn our Christmas tree when we take it down on Candlemas! That’s what I came to this thread for.

I bet some of the woodyards are pretty sketchy. It's a cash business with low barriers to entry. Kinda famous for tweakers in my area. Cook a little meth, process some firewood, repeat.
 
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You're doing the right thing by splitting and checking moisture properly. If someone is selling a cord as seasoned but it's a decent deal to you even if it's not seasoned, also as you suggest, season it yourself! Get ahead if you can. Always the right move!
 
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You're doing the right thing by splitting and checking moisture properly. If someone is selling a cord as seasoned but it's a decent deal to you even if it's not seasoned, also as you suggest, season it yourself! Get ahead if you can. Always the right move!
especially if the price is right
 
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Hitting some pine splits in my wood pile, quite dry. I have only a vague memory of taking down that tree, which was medium sized. Man this stuff explodes. Put the split on hot coals, ferocious flames. It's like I've dumped gasoline in the stove. I guess if you were in a place with only pine it would be a whole different relationship with the stove.
 
Hitting some pine splits in my wood pile, quite dry. I have only a vague memory of taking down that tree, which was medium sized. Man this stuff explodes. Put the split on hot coals, ferocious flames. It's like I've dumped gasoline in the stove. I guess if you were in a place with only pine it would be a whole different relationship with the stove.
Yeah it does a great job of getting full secondaries. Close that air down quick.
 
Man this stuff explodes.
It will show you how low your air can go. Our yellow pine is pitchy. It can get smoky if you throw a large knot on it and do keep the fire hot enough to keep secondaries going. If you really need to push a stove hard I bet my pine can put out more BTUs a day than oak as it doesn’t coal very long.
 
Yes. Less BTUs per cubic foot but a faster rate of release (both leading to a shorter burn time) than oak.
I'm bringing in some white oak, big red oak, and locust for r next weekend. Those are my reloads for the nights . And pitch pine and sassafras for during the day. Quick heat, no coals for when I need a stuffed box for overnight.
 
Before we came south the ash bore graced us with unlimited amounts of great firewood. For decades before that Hackberry was being cleared from fence rows and was easily had although nasty to process without a splitter. Pine was relegated to fire rings. I have to admit at this point I never really seasoned it out fully for the stove.

Our property here is covered in yellow and white pine. Live storm broken, dead stand and dead fall gets bucked and split. After 3 seasons of burning it and stack cleaning it is no issue and it's just another word in the lineup. Hot and low coal is is sweet spot for when I'm actively tending the fire. Oak, beech hickory and mixed hardwood for overnight loads.

I'm headed out now for a bag of line now.
 
Hitting some pine splits in my wood pile, quite dry. I have only a vague memory of taking down that tree, which was medium sized. Man this stuff explodes. Put the split on hot coals, ferocious flames. It's like I've dumped gasoline in the stove. I guess if you were in a place with only pine it would be a whole different relationship with the stove.
I’ve been finding this exact thing this season. So much so, that I just order another cord of pine logs. Probably get another one after that I’d like to have pine be a larger part of my wood supply over time.
 
I’ve been finding this exact thing this season. So much so, that I just order another cord of pine logs. Probably get another one after that I’d like to have pine be a larger part of my wood supply over time.
It dries fast too! Just keep it really well covered. It soaks up the rain faster!
 
Past 2 days I've been feeding some pine in the mix. White pine, CSS for 2 seasons. Dry and feather light.
Like said, burns HOT and fast. Been throwing a split or 2, depending on size, on the coal bed and topped with more choice hardwoods.

Gives me the boost of heat needed, helps keep the coal bed manageable, all the while an ignition boost for the choice splits. I'm liking this method.

Yesterday for daytime burn was a pine split topped with all norway maple small rounds and splits. Awesome heat.