Woke to 14* temps

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Loaded last night at 8:45 w/30's OAT and stove temp was 350 this am @7:30 and OAT at 14*(Central heat cycled twice). Raked coals and turned the fan on and didn't reload until around 10am w/5 splits. Did not cook breakfast in the stove this morning.

Lit the downstairs stove downstairs mid morning and fed it twice. Haven't reloaded main stove yet as I type this at 6:00pm.

Temps never got above 20* today and forecast to drop to 12* tonight. Coolest part of the house was 74* mid day.

I'll bet the central heat doesn't cycle tomorrow.....lol

How do the non woodheat people live?
 
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Loaded last night at 8:45 w/30's OAT and stove temp was 350 this am @7:30 and OAT at 14*(Central heat cycled twice). Raked coals and turned the fan on and didn't reload until around 10am w/4 splits. Did not cook breakfast in the stove this morning.

Lit the downstairs stove downstairs mid morning and fed it twice. Haven't reloaded main stove yet as I type this at 6:00pm.

Temps never got above 20* today and forecast to drop to 12* tonight. Coolest part of the house was 74* mid day.

I'll bet the central heat doesn't cycle tomorrow.....lol

How do the non woodheat people live?
Some of them aren’t living and some of them live in igloos. Those with gas/electric or fossil gas kits may not survive due to demand. We have a heat pump with oil furnace and a fossil fuel kit, but with the wood stove we do not need it.

[For those of you ON the grid] I encourage everyone to have a minimum of one alternative heat source, preferably wood.

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Woke this morn to 11*OAT and 70* inside at 6:30.
320* stove temp,....raked coals, gave it some air and turned fan on,....temp went to 335.

Central heat pump did not cycle this am.

I may have an Englander omelette......Mmmmmmm
 
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If everyone was burning wood for heat around here, I wouldn't get it dropped in my yard for free. For that reason, I am glad that most do not. I don't think there is anyone else in my local neighborhood using wood as their primary heat source. I know a couple of guys down the road burn at least some wood. They are across the street from each other and both have super scary and sketchy looking black pipe "chimneys". I think, locally, wood burning is more of an ambiance or once in a while thing for people. We have natural gas piped to our houses here, so that is the go to for most people.
 
I dont think a wood stove is really tested unless the temps fall under zero degrees F.
 
If you have mostly electric heat in your neighborhood like me, your non-wood burning neighbors live……expensively.
Yeah, that is something I don’t understand. Even here at a local store in Hoggswallop, there is a cellophane wrapped bundle of wood for $12. This might get me half a day only if my stove is ALREADY up to temperature.
But, I imagine anyone with electric heat that has switched and is seriously burning has recovered their investment tenfold in no time.
Edit: Matter of fact, the other day when it was 14* here I was in a short sleeve shirt and boxer shorts and that would be VERY expensive temperatures heated with electricity.
 
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Yeah, that is something I don’t understand. Even here at a local store in Hoggswallop, there is a cellophane wrapped bundle of wood for $12. This might get me half a day only if my stove is ALREADY up to temperature.
But, I imagine anyone with electric heat that has switched and is seriously burning has recovered their investment tenfold in no time.
Edit: Matter of fact, the other day when it was 14* here I was in a short sleeve shirt and boxer shorts and that would be VERY expensive temperatures heated with electricity.
I’ve tried to estimate the electric heat costs for my 1600 sq ft house and can’t figure it to be below 1000 a month. And that would be with shutting off a couple rooms and max temp about 68.
 
We are having a new home build. Contractor placed huge 60 amp electric furnace in center of the great room. Sheetrock guys, painters, etc, needed heat. Mind you know one lives there in the house. My electric bill for 28 days was nearly $600.00 Then, they show more than 3,900KW hours used in the same 28 days. They further showed it starts up at 8:00 p.m. and runs to 8:00 a.m. So the entire run time was when no one was there.

Next week a new KE40 is going in. I cannot fathom a $600 monthly electric bill. Nor can I afford it! Long live wood heat!

BKVP
 
If the electric heat is mini splits, then the electric is pretty close to the cost of purchased firewood, more or less, even at high rates. In mild weather the heat pump is cheaper, in cold-ish weather (maybe down to 10F) close to even. In very cold weather, below maybe 5F, the heat pump starts to get way more expensive than wood pretty fast as the temperature drops, I guess depending on your heat requirement. For us, yep, ouch. (Though heat pumps are expensive and don’t last forever, got to take that into account too).

For me now it’s not so much an economic consideration so much as a winter comfort one, and also a mind set. (We do have mini splits and an oil boiler). Also I don’t at all like burning oil. Even if part of your power grid is green, electricity is a bit sketchy too. Here in Vermont our electricity is supposed to be, I think they say, 99% renewable. Though I don’t see how that really is, since we are on the New England Grid, which is pretty far from completely green if you look at https://www.iso-ne.com/ say right now. Even worse in real cold. Not all that green. The hydro input to the grid is severely curtailed because of the prolonged severe drought we’ve been having.

It’s funny for me about paying for wood vs cutting my own. Some periods in the past, because I had better things to do or could earn money in that time or because my back hurt, I considered cut, split, and delivered at $280/cord to be a bargain compared to spending time cutting, splitting, hauling. And at times in the past I was definitely losing money if I spent the time messing with wood in any way instead of working. Though lately I’ve been all in on cutting my own and am getting years ahead. For some old man reason, I’m enjoying it immensely it’s all about cut my own. There are always other things I could be doing, but I’m compelled to cut wood and play forester. I expect if I don’t hurt my back or something, I’ll be at least 3 years ahead by June or so. In a period around 40 years ago I cut all of my wood, but I didn’t enjoy it so much. With the masonry stove I had back then I wanted it just-so. Also there were infinite poplar trees to cull.

Burning wood in this old house is the only way to keep comfortable in our “great room” (an 1860s one room school house). Without the stove going in cold weather, there is just no way to be comfortable in this room. Maybe cranking both the oil heat AND the mini split at the same time could get it warm in here below 20 degrees F. I’m going to find out in a couple of weeks when we do a cold swap of the Jotul for a Progress Hybrid, and the stove will be shut down for a time in late December. Shut down the Jotul to remove it, then the Progress will only get some break in fires (and probably open windows). Brr.

It’s in my blood. I’ve always wanted to burn wood, even in my little superinsulated house that didn’t need much heat at all, even in the big architect designed house with oil-boiler floor heat and (for those few years) plenty of money. (Alas, distant past.) Wood burning got in my blood, I guess when I was in college and had a chance to live for no rent in a barely insulated cabin with an antique wood stove, no running water one winter and spring was the start of it. And that was back when Vermont had cold winters. Burning wood triggered some genetic switch I guess. Done it ever since, just about every year. Now I won’t stop until I’m dead or hauled away. There is no alternative to keeping the stove going.
 
Dang.....

Loaded last night at 9:30 and at 7:30 this morn raked coals and chard pieces closed the door and got strong secondaries because I hadn't open the air from last night's setting. 24* oat this AM.

Don't recall that happening before....lol


Well,....who else was I gonna tell?
 
I currently heat my 115-year old 1,400² foot house with a Jotul F500 V3 Oslo. The Oslo replaced a Jotul F118 CB Black Bear when the baffle failed. Like the Black Bear used to, the Oslo keeps the house warm and comfortable most winters. But this winter with extended periods of below freezing temperatures has been exceptionally cold for coastal Rhode Island. Our air temperatures are usually moderated by warmer ocean waters.

The Oslo, like the Black Bear, can easily warm the house 30⁰ to 40⁰ F over outside temperature. When overnight temperatures dip into the low teens and single numbers with a stiff breeze, raising inside temperature 50⁰, and sometimes 60⁰ F over outside, is sometimes a losing battle. I don't usually mind winter, but this year, this retiree is looking forward to a mild spring.
 
We are having a new home build. Contractor placed huge 60 amp electric furnace in center of the great room. Sheetrock guys, painters, etc, needed heat. Mind you know one lives there in the house. My electric bill for 28 days was nearly $600.00 Then, they show more than 3,900KW hours used in the same 28 days. They further showed it starts up at 8:00 p.m. and runs to 8:00 a.m. So the entire run time was when no one was there.

Next week a new KE40 is going in. I cannot fathom a $600 monthly electric bill. Nor can I afford it! Long live wood heat!

BKVP
To be fair that was most likely just a resistance heater. Most people heating full time with electric now are using heat pumps
 
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To be fair that was most likely just a resistance heater. Most people heating full time with electric now are using heat pumps
It was exactly that and the house has a heat pump. More importantly...A brand new KE40!

BKVP
 
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It was exactly that and the house has a heat pump. More importantly...A brand new KE40!

BKVP
But I was referring to the electic furnace they brought in that ran your bill up that high not what you will be using