wood shed; ideas for wood floor, not pallets

[amh]

i am going to build a wood shed probably 8ft wide by 16ft long.
i have a bunch of 6x8 posts to build with.
i want the posts to be above ground so they will last longer.
i am going to either pour concrete pad and set post on top or build wood floor
it will be on packed modified (2b stone mixed with dirt) surface

i don't want to do the pallets because i need something to attach the bottom of the posts to.
i am thinking it will be cheaper and be better for air flow with a wood floor
since the whole wood floor will be suppored by the ground, maybe only need 2x4 pressure treated for the joists and top?

any ideas and/or pics would be great!
thanks

 

[tigeroak]

If you pour a floor you will need something under your wood to keep from drawing moisture. I would build a floor in it as you would a deck, 2x6 or 2x8 then deck boards on top with 1/2 inch space. What you are wanting is about what I made but mine can be moved when empty. Mine are 4 foot wide 5 1/2 foot tall and 16 foot long. Mine are made with 16 foot treated 2x6 with floor decking ,2x4 treaded up ends with decking spaced about 3-4 inches, then 2x4 treated in the middle and then a metal roof. Picture below is the first one I made a few years ago And I have now have 6 that are 16 long , 1 - 20 foot long and 1 - 8 footer

 

[amh]

Thx tigeroak, if u have all of them full, thats gotta be about 5 yrs of wood?

Ya, something like that with bigger posts.

Why did you use 16ft joists instead of running them the other way?
did you use joist hangers or just screw the ends in?
and lastly, the over hang of the roof looks like its even with the wood, any issues with rain on the other peices?

Thx again

 

[iamlucky13]

If it were me, I'd use pier blocks with 6" wide post brackets. Getting the post out of contact with the concrete is ideal.

If you can't find those locally, you should be able to find empty pier blocks (with a center hole to cement a bracket into), or pour your own to the stick the brackets into. If nothing else, you can buy those brackets online:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/SlipX-Solutions-6-in-x-6-in-Post-Holder-2033/205825167?N=5yc1vZc8hv

 

[Woody Stover]

https://www.google.com/search?q=con...cBsuTyASA74G4Ag&ved=0CD8QsAQ&biw=1920&bih=979

 

[tigeroak]

Thx tigeroak, if u have all of them full, thats gotta be about 5 yrs of wood?

Ya, something like that with bigger posts.

Why did you use 16ft joists instead of running them the other way?
did you use joist hangers or just screw the ends in?
and lastly, the over hang of the roof looks like its even with the wood, any issues with rain on the other peices?

Thx again

I ran 3 16 footers then cut a 8 footer in half for the ends and spacers in the middle. I used 16 ruffes treated [pole barn nails] to nail all together. That one in picture was the only one that is short on the tin size , since then I have fixed that one and made about a 4 inch over hang on front and back. Not to much of a deal with the rain unless it is blowing and everyone's will be wet but they dry quick. The main this is they are off the ground. Yes I am 5 years ahead when they are full, got about 1 cord to go and will be back to full again.

 

[tigeroak]

One hint on lumber, go to the lumber yard, home depot and so on and ask for cull treaded lumber. Every one of them places has it ,ask for a discount because they can't sell it, Home Depot gave me 85% of on most of my lumber. The last load I got from them was over 400.00 cost I got for less that 60.00. I bought ALL the lumber like that and I don't have 100.00 in any one that I built. If you ask around and check I bet you can build you building for less that 300.00. Metal and all.

 

[amh]

If it were me, I'd use pier blocks with 6" wide post brackets. Getting the post out of contact with the concrete is ideal.

If you can't find those locally, you should be able to find empty pier blocks (with a center hole to cement a bracket into), or pour your own to the stick the brackets into. If nothing else, you can buy those brackets online:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/SlipX-Solutions-6-in-x-6-in-Post-Holder-2033/205825167?N=5yc1vZc8hv

Are u talking about cementing those peirs in or let the weight of the posts and roof hold them down?
if its the second, how would i build the wood deck to store the wood on?
thx lucky

 

[Oldman47]

You can cement in post supports or buy the kind with a hole in the bottom and use concrete anchors like the U brackets shown here (broken link removed to http://www.bisonbuilt.com/post_base_s_vhv443ytw_vhv8ytw.aspx)
As far as supporting the joists, use joist hangers and hanger nails. Special extra thick nails are made just for use with joist hangers. Some hangers also use angled nail holes so you can use full length 16d nails with them.

 

[iamlucky13]

Are u talking about cementing those peirs in or let the weight of the posts and roof hold them down?
if its the second, how would i build the wood deck to store the wood on?

Depends whether you want to spring for the cost of the concrete floor or not.

If you're going to pour a flour, I'd either set a pre-cast pier in each place you want a post (preferrably on top of 4-6" of tamped gravel used to level and help support them) and pour around them. Or if you use the post brackets alone, make your form a bit deeper for each location to make the pad thicker under the post. For help positioning the brackets, you can cut a slot in a piece of scrap wood, then set the bracket in the slot and set the wood on top of your form boards, screwed in place, to make sure the bracket stays where it should as you pour the concrete.

If you don't want a concrete floor, dig a little bit into the ground where you want each post, put 4-6" of gravel over a slightly larger footprint than the pier, tamp that down solid, and set the pier on that. It is worth spending time at this stage leveling all the piers relative to each other. You'll want the post bracket on top of the pier to be about 6" above ground level when finished to help keep the posts away from ground moisture.

If you want a wood floor, you can set your posts in the brackets and brace them vertical, then use either joist hangars or lag screws to attach rim joists between each post along the long axis of your shed, then attach the main floor joists between those rim joists. Lay slats over those joists to support the wood.