Wood Stove in Garage Apartment

[BlackDogFarms]

Hey all:

My wife and I are building a new home on approximate 11 acres of hardwood forest in Eastern NC. our home will be 1100 sf above a 3 car garage. Dimensions are 30x44 with an open floor plan. I grew up with a wood fire place and wood stoves in our out buildings. I really want to put a small wood stove in the upstairs of our garage apartment. The other option is gas logs and I put a wood stove in my garage.

I am seeking you all's assistance in where to place the wood stove and what type of wood stove? I would like to be able to fit at least 18 inch logs in the stove. We will also have central heating in air in the apartment but the utility bills in our area are quite high. As in 150+ for 1000 sqft new construction. So to be able to mainly heat with the wood stove and let the central heat make up during the wee hours of the night.

I have attached our floor plan to give you a better idea of where we can put the wood stove. The first file was our original floor plan. The second floor plan is a view of the whole apartment, the living room, the largest room will be where the wood stove would go. The third floor plan is the latest floor plan. Looks like I can either put a wood stove in the right hand corner of the living room and basically no where else. The fourth image shows a possible location for the wood stove. I am also open to a middle of the floor type wood stove, but we have limited space so I feel a corner fire place is the best bet. Other wise we can put a wood stove We may not have enough room and will be forced to do gas logs.

All recommendations are welcome.

Thanks

 

[begreen]

Looks like you will want a close clearance stove and maybe one that will work with a shorter chimney. What is the ceiling to floor measurement in the stove location? How will the stove be used; evenings and weekends or 24/7?

 

[BlackDogFarms]

Looks like you will want a close clearance stove and maybe one that will work with a shorter chimney. What is the ceiling to floor measurement in the stove location? How will the stove be used; evenings and weekends or 24/7?

The stove will be used evenings and weekends. The ceiling height is 9 foot. The wife already said no to the middle of the room stove idea, the last image. I would love to put it under the tv and run the stove pipe behind the television in the built in cabinet.

 

[BlackDogFarms]

Looks like you will want a close clearance stove and maybe one that will work with a shorter chimney. What is the ceiling to floor measurement in the stove location? How will the stove be used; evenings and weekends or 24/7?

Also, you mentioned close clearance. What if I build a "fire wall" Either a wood stove surrounded by brick or metal spaced as required from wood stud walls. All of the stove tech I have read lists all of the spacing from walls, but are these unprotected walls. What is the closest I can have a stove to say a piece of 1/4" sheet metal with an inch spacer from a wood stud wall? Any reading material/dummy guide you recommend would be helpful.

 

[edyit]

clearances, and i'm sure someone will correct me if i'm wrong, are mostly set by manufactures testing, they can vary from stove to stove, you will need to find one that can meet the size you are looking to heat and clearances for the space you are looking to place it in.

 

[mass_burner]

Also, consider how to get the wood up to the stove and storage.

 

[Babaganoosh]

You will shorten the life of the tv with all that heat.

 

[BlackDogFarms]

clearances, and i'm sure someone will correct me if i'm wrong, are mostly set by manufactures testing, they can vary from stove to stove, you will need to find one that can meet the size you are looking to heat and clearances for the space you are looking to place it in.

From what I have read clearances indicate how far you have to be from a combustible wall. They mention nothing about having a fire wall. say 1/4 sheet metal screwed to a wall with 1 inch spacers to provide for air flow.


Babaganoosh:
So you think the TV will be affected if it is located 4 feet above the stove?

mass_burner:
I will have a screened in porch right off the living area for wood storage.

 

[edyit]

someone more informed than i am can give you a link or even quote what NFPA and nonflammable shielding clearance reductions are

 

[BlackDogFarms]

someone more informed than i am can give you a link or even quote what NFPA and nonflammable shielding clearance reductions are

I will be putting a phone call into Jotul to determine what the clearances can be if a shield is used.

Thanks

 

[SteveKG]

Hey all:

The other option is gas logs and I put a wood stove in my garage.

Just be aware I've heard a number of times that some places do not allow a wood-burning stove in a garage due to possible gasoline-fume ignition. I don't know whether this is factual.

 

[huauqui]

BlackDogFarms,

I have found over the years, no mater were I place a stove in a house, the stove always becomes the focal point. With that in mind I looked over the drawings and on the first attachment (the white background drawing.) It showed the master bedroom door not centered in the wall which would give you space to place a stove on the wall between the master bedroom door and the kitchen breakfast bar. I think a Jotul 400 or f45, Woodstock Fireview, Pacific Energy Alderlea T4, or a Blaze King Ashford 20 would fit well there and would be visible from the entire space lending itself to be a focal point. Those stoves are just suggestion and many others could be named as well. Any of them would more then heat the whole space you would just have to make sure your hearth was built correctly for the stove as each of those has slightly different requirements. With 9 foot ceilings and placed on that wall near the center of the home where the roof is close to it's tallest I would think you will be close to 13 feet of chimney which should make all those stoves function without much problem save the blaze king which really wants 15 feet but you could easily add a couple feet.

The one thing I would do for sure is super insulate that floor, cold feet are not fun and make for grumpy wives. Can't wait to see what you decide to do and I sure hope you post up some pictures when it is done.

huauqui

 

[rustynut]

BDF, I'm running the 5700 Quad (3cf) and it only requires 2 inch to combustible wall. It has built in heat shields. Ok that said i was not comfortable at that range and was able to pull it out to about 6 or 7 clear but the manual does say 2. I too am on house over garage and it was a bear bringing wood up to feed the beast especially as a full time heat source. John Deere has been very helpful lately with that chore. Right now i'm able to load the deck from the bucket but the plan is to build a sturdy platform @ the end of the deck where i'll be able to place a pallet of splits. Just thought i'd share that as it is a bit of a chore. rn

 

[bholler]

So you think the TV will be affected if it is located 4 feet above the stove?

yes

From what I have read clearances indicate how far you have to be from a combustible wall. They mention nothing about having a fire wall. say 1/4 sheet metal screwed to a wall with 1 inch spacers to provide for air flow.

Unless they state that clearances can be further reduced by the addition of a nfpa heatsheid then no the listed clearances are the required clearances to any combustible material regardless of what is between the stove and that combustible.

 

[begreen]

The stove will be used evenings and weekends. The ceiling height is 9 foot. The wife already said no to the middle of the room stove idea, the last image. I would love to put it under the tv and run the stove pipe behind the television in the built in cabinet.

Not a practical plan due to top clearance requirements and concerns about heat near electronics. If you want this plan consider an EPA ZC fireplace with a non-combustible mantel as a heat shield for the tv.

I will be putting a phone call into Jotul to determine what the clearances can be if a shield is used.

Jotul lists their close clearances with a shielded wall for most of their stoves. The tested clearances in the manual are what you need to go by. This is for the F400.