Wood stove w/ window for tiny house (375 s.f.)

[gouache23]

Hi all -

I have been searching high and low for a good solution for my tiny house. I want a wood stove with a window that will sit nicely in a corner (for this reason the Jotul doesn't work for me). I don't really care about getting an overnight burn; we have electric baseboard heat. This is for supplemental heat and aesthetics. A little cod sounds great but also difficult to impossible to get my hands on.

I'm in Michigan, if that helps.

Thanks for any input! Elizabeth

 

[wayneg]

I burned a Morso Squirrel 1410 for a few years and really liked that little stove. It has a small footprint and may work for your situation. Nice viewing window and throws some good heat. Be aware, however, that it only takes a max 12" log (I cut all of my own wood so that really didn't bother me that much).

 

[begreen]

A Jotul F602 or a Morso 2B or other Morso may work if you don't build too large a fire in it. This thread may help.
https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/jotul-602f-cb.7962/
I've been reading about this small stove from China. It is not EPA but might be ok for the occasional ambience fire.
http://www.woodlanddirect.com/Wood-...orse-Flame-Shetland-HF-905-Wood-Burning-Stove

 

[Dieselhead]

Light a candle

 

[Rossco]

Light a candle

Ha I was gonna say that.

Nice little 1.8cf BK or something like that.

 

[Swedishchef]

Welcome to the forums!

It depends on your budget. Lower end budget: drolet pyropak, napoleon S1 and many others. Jotul sure do make a nice stove though...

Good luck!

Andrew

 

[Sprinter]

How about this little guy: http://www.marinestove.com/sardineinfo.htm

Just throwing it out there FWIW.

 

[Hiram Maxim]

A Jotul F602 or a Morso 2B or other Morso may work if you don't build too large a fire in it. This thread may help.
https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/jotul-602f-cb.7962/
I've been reading about this small stove from China. It is not EPA but might be ok for the occasional ambience fire.
http://www.woodlanddirect.com/Wood-...orse-Flame-Shetland-HF-905-Wood-Burning-Stove

Jotul F602 was my first thought too !

Where in Michigan? Are you living in a shipping container.

 

[akbear]

The (broken link removed) is a very low clearance stove. The (broken link removed to http://www.dickinsonmarine.com/dheaters.php) Newport Solid Fuel is a very small woodstove (it's towards the bottom just before the stovepipes) but it doesn't exactly have a (broken link removed)

 

[begreen]

She is looking for a stove that has a view window I think. The Kimberly is very expensive. You could buy a half dozen of the Horse Flame stoves or a few tiny Morso's for that price.

 

[akbear]

So far that's been the curse for the tiny home and small house segments, while like everyone else, simply being a heater means it's going to cost dearly, but for us it's either overkill on the BTUs (or simply being too big) or being the right size at an extremely premium price as it's a speciality item. Hopefully the small home movement is likely approaching the critical mass needed for more heating solutions to appear that aren't making do or paying through the nose (and more alternatives for self-sufficient fuels)

 

[1750]

I have the bigger version of this: (broken link removed to http://www.lopistoves.com/product-detail.aspx?model=242)

I've been very happy with it.

 

[akbear]

This is where the Europeans really have us beat, instead of humvee sized stoves, it's possible to get them in sub-compact, mini and scooter sizes as well. (broken link removed to http://www.robeys.co.uk/products/rais_stoves__1)

And perhaps these newer and untested designs like the pipsqueak or the cubic will be indications of what is yet to come. (and unfortunately some dubious cheap ones from developing countries as well)

 

[glennm]

Why not a Jotul F3? It has a great view of the fire and isn't too big.

 

[dougstove]

There is no window, but these stoves meant for winter tents are small:
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Enterprise Stoves of New Brunswick (now, sadly, closed and burned down) used to make very small cast stoves aimed for camps.
With a 375 s.ft. house you will need a very small stove, or short burns, to avoid creating a sauna.
BioLite twig stoves are cool; peltier element to drive a forced air fan and USB charging. But they are not set up for a chimney. The Biolite company is interested in design; maybe they could be approached to build an indoor version.

 

[MaintenanceMan]

Englander 17-vl has tight clearances, 1.1 cuft firebox, and a great view of the fire.

 

[gouache23]

Thanks so much for the input, everyone!

The problem with Jotul F602 is the shape. It takes up a ton of floor space because of the orientation. Jotul F3 might be a good option though, as well as Morso 1410.

@Hiram Maxim - It's just a tiny house (perhaps a converted garage?) in SW Michigan.
@Sprinter - I love the Sardine and Little Cod, but it seems very difficult to obtain one.
@akbear - It is amazing to me ... tiny houses are so popular these days, but finding a tiny stove to go inside one is nearly impossible!
@MaintenanceMan - The Englander 17-VL is definitely interesting, and way more affordable. Are you happy with yours ... ?

And yes, I really want a window ... the stove is for aesthetics first ... and heating second.

 

[mellow]

Throwing this out there, the mini-franklin from Woodstock would be a good fit, but it is gas.

(broken link removed to http://www.woodstove.com/mini-franklin)

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[akbear]

Just keep plugging away at it, even doing google image searches for things like smallest woodstoves might bring up a few hidden gems every now and again or lead you onto some new discoveries.

This thread would be something else to maybe ponder and start up a new discussion if you could only find something with the size and clearance constraints but would put out too much heat to be useful or clean burning if throttled down too much.

The only other thing that even comes to mind is if more space could be freed up if the stove could eliminate some other things in the house, like for instance the Vermont Bun Baker (or one of it's clones) or you had the ability to add on an entryway or summer kitchen type addition where the stove could be placed and excess heat wouldn't be so much of a problem for the main part of the home.

By the way, here is another yet to be certified mini-stove.

 

[gouache23]

Anyone have experience with the Hobbit / Salamander ... ? http://salamanderstoves.com/the-hobbit-stove/

Also I have no idea how to find someone to actually install a stove, if/when I get one.

 

[akbear]

Here are a couple more that maybe ought to hit our shores for smaller homes (or at least not through trendy design houses).

The Viking 30

The Royal Viking

The Stack Stove

(broken link removed to http://www.stuv.com/en/products/wood-burning-stoves.html)

Kind of like a kid in a candy store when searching for what we can't get or can't afford, but also interesting how many of these fly below the radar, yet there may actually be a distributor on this side of the pond. If the small house movement and micro-apartments take off, there are bound to be more choices on the way when it comes to diminutive appliances.

 

[MaintenanceMan]

@MaintenanceMan - The Englander 17-VL is definitely interesting, and way more affordable. Are you happy with yours ... ?

Yes I am. It's a great stove. It can really push out some heat if you want it to. It has one of the best views of the fire to be had. It's a shade small for my house (1400 sqft) but unless it's in the teens it will do the job as long as you feed it. 4 hr fires are the max with a stove like this and that's with the best wood stacked in there just right. With a space as small as yours I'd be giving it a hard look. Seems like a great fit.

 

[dougstove]

The Salamander Hobbit looks great, but how long is the maximum wood length?
I searched, but their online question form is not working for me.

Got a response from Salamander: 8"

 

[Sprinter]

Englander 17-VL

Yes I am. It's a great stove. It can really push out some heat if you want it to. It has one of the best views of the fire to be had. It's a shade small for my house (1400 sqft) but unless it's in the teens it will do the job as long as you feed it. 4 hr fires are the max with a stove like this and that's with the best wood stacked in there just right. With a space as small as yours I'd be giving it a hard look. Seems like a great fit.

That 17-vl has a good reputation on this forum and there are quite a few threads about it. Here's a manual on it. Take a look at the dimensions and clearance specs. It looks like it can go in a corner nicely and it's heating capacity is quite high for its physical size (actually more than you need). And it's cheap from Home Depot.

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[billb3]

That 17-vl has a good reputation on this forum and there are quite a few threads about it. Here's a manual on it. Take a look at the dimensions and clearance specs. It looks like it can go in a corner nicely and it's heating capacity is quite high for its physical size (actually more than you need). And it's cheap from Home Depot.

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