woodstove inside fireplace?

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jgilbert529

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Sep 13, 2011
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western maine
I had two pine trees fall on my house about 6 months ago, ($20k in damage, thank god for insurance) i cut it up and split it, in all i ended up with about 6 cords of wood. In the family room there is a brick fireplace that measures 29x29, it is 21" deep at the bottom and about 19" at the top, the hearth is 15" out and flush with the carpet. the mantle is 12" above the top of the fireplace and is wood. the fireplace has a stainless steel liner that continues through the roof that measures 6" and is 24" off the bottom of the fireplace, it seems that the previous owner of this 1930s house had a fireplace insert. i would love to just install an insert but with every one iv looked at costs way more than i can afford,does anyone have any ideas? i may be able to come up with $1000 with some sucking up to the wife. last year i was purchasing deisel fuel every day with my 5 gallon gas can to heat the house so you could say money is tight. the house is also 2400 sq ft.
 
jgilbert529 said:
I had two pine trees fall on my house about 6 months ago, ($20k in damage, thank god for insurance) i cut it up and split it, in all i ended up with about 6 cords of wood. In the family room there is a brick fireplace that measures 29x29, it is 21" deep at the bottom and about 19" at the top, the hearth is 15" out and flush with the carpet. the mantle is 12" above the top of the fireplace and is wood. the fireplace has a stainless steel liner that continues through the roof that measures 6" and is 24" off the bottom of the fireplace, it seems that the previous owner of this 1930s house had a fireplace insert. i would love to just install an insert but with every one iv looked at costs way more than i can afford,does anyone have any ideas? i may be able to come up with $1000 with some sucking up to the wife. last year i was purchasing deisel fuel every day with my 5 gallon gas can to heat the house so you could say money is tight. the house is also 2400 sq ft.

I believe the Englander nc-30 is being flogged @ home depot for $899. in the U.S.. If not the price is $1049. Best bang for the buck in a steel plate stove. There are a whole lot of folks on here with them. One thing that is really important with this, and any EPA stove, is that your wood MUST be PROPERLY seasoned to get decent heat and burn results. Other options out there, but I think this is a great alternative in that price range. good luck
 

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A 30 won't fit in his fireplace rottiman.
 
the trees were about 90 feet tall and measured about 30" at the base. i have a wood pile 38 feet long 5 feet tall with 16"ish logs double wide and another pile 16 feet long single width 4 feet tall.
thanks for the quick replys.
 
jgilbert529 said:
I had two pine trees fall on my house about 6 months ago, ($20k in damage, thank god for insurance) i cut it up and split it, in all i ended up with about 6 cords of wood. In the family room there is a brick fireplace that measures 29x29, it is 21" deep at the bottom and about 19" at the top, the hearth is 15" out and flush with the carpet. the mantle is 12" above the top of the fireplace and is wood. the fireplace has a stainless steel liner that continues through the roof that measures 6" and is 24" off the bottom of the fireplace, it seems that the previous owner of this 1930s house had a fireplace insert. i would love to just install an insert but with every one iv looked at costs way more than i can afford,does anyone have any ideas? i may be able to come up with $1000 with some sucking up to the wife. last year i was purchasing deisel fuel every day with my 5 gallon gas can to heat the house so you could say money is tight. the house is also 2400 sq ft.


Both of the above posters are correct. The Englander 30NC is withing your budget, would provide a lot of heat, but it will not fit inside your fireplace.

The 13NC would fit, but it is a smaller stove. It would provide a decent amount of heat, just not whole house heating, though.
 
Sounds like a Buck 74 would slip in there OK.

(broken link removed to http://www.buckstove.com/wood/model74.html)
 
Would the Englander 30 fit with the shorter legs like Hiram Maxim has? I like that look. Bulldog stove.
 
BeGreen said:
Sounds like a Buck 74 would slip in there OK.

(broken link removed to http://www.buckstove.com/wood/model74.html)



His max price is $1,000. The Buck 74 is above that.
 
kingquad said:
Would the Englander 30 fit with the shorter legs like Hiram Maxim has? I like that look. Bulldog stove.

I'm unfamiliar with this. Could you post a link?
 
BrowningBAR said:
kingquad said:
Would the Englander 30 fit with the shorter legs like Hiram Maxim has? I like that look. Bulldog stove.

I'm unfamiliar with this. Could you post a link?
I think he has NC 13 legs mounted on an NC 30.

Hiram Maxim NC-30 install

I've never posted a link before, so hopefully I didn't f--- this up.
 
kingquad said:
BrowningBAR said:
kingquad said:
Would the Englander 30 fit with the shorter legs like Hiram Maxim has? I like that look. Bulldog stove.

I'm unfamiliar with this. Could you post a link?
I think he has NC 13 legs mounted on an NC 30.

Hiram Maxim NC-30 install

I've never posted a link before, so hopefully I didn't f--- this up.


BrotherBart would know what the height of the stove would be with the legs. I remember it not making a difference in height. Could be wrong.
 
BrowningBAR said:
BeGreen said:
Sounds like a Buck 74 would slip in there OK.

(broken link removed to http://www.buckstove.com/wood/model74.html)

His max price is $1,000. The Buck 74 is above that.

sometimes to do a job right, you need to adjust the budget a bit. The stove will be with him for the next 20+ yrs. so IMO it would be much better to get a bigger stove that fits than to get a smaller stove that you learn on then have to update. Don't ask me how I know this... :red:
 
BeGreen said:
BrowningBAR said:
BeGreen said:
Sounds like a Buck 74 would slip in there OK.

(broken link removed to http://www.buckstove.com/wood/model74.html)

His max price is $1,000. The Buck 74 is above that.

sometimes to do a job right, you need to adjust the budget a bit. The stove will be with him for the next 20+ yrs. so IMO it would be much better to get a bigger stove that fits than to get a smaller stove that you learn on then have to update. Don't ask me how I know this... :red:


Yeah, but sometimes there is no budge in the budget.


And the Intrepid that is sitting next to me waiting to be sand blasted can relate to being undersized.
 
BrowningBAR said:
kingquad said:
BrowningBAR said:
kingquad said:
Would the Englander 30 fit with the shorter legs like Hiram Maxim has? I like that look. Bulldog stove.

I'm unfamiliar with this. Could you post a link?
I think he has NC 13 legs mounted on an NC 30.

Hiram Maxim NC-30 install

I've never posted a link before, so hopefully I didn't f--- this up.


BrotherBart would know what the height of the stove would be with the legs. I remember it not making a difference in height. Could be wrong.
That's with the NC 30 legs. I think it can be mounted on the NC 13 legs which are 3-4 inches shorter. I'm sure BB will chime in to clarify once he sees this.
 
BrowningBAR said:
BeGreen said:
BrowningBAR said:
BeGreen said:
Sounds like a Buck 74 would slip in there OK.

(broken link removed to http://www.buckstove.com/wood/model74.html)

His max price is $1,000. The Buck 74 is above that.

sometimes to do a job right, you need to adjust the budget a bit. The stove will be with him for the next 20+ yrs. so IMO it would be much better to get a bigger stove that fits than to get a smaller stove that you learn on then have to update. Don't ask me how I know this... :red:


Yeah, but sometimes there is no budge in the budget.


And the Intrepid that is sitting next to me waiting to be sand blasted can relate to being undersized.
NC-30 can still be had for 649 delivered to your door.
 
Why not just call Englander Tech Support?
 
The height of the 30 with a optional hundred dollar set of six inch legs is 29 3/4 inches to the top of the flue collar. Won't work. Even if you have that much you still gotta have some room to attach a liner.

A 30 ain't gonna work in that hole no way, no how. Me and a young sorceress in NC are dealing with the same kind of situation as I type. Except she had more room than the OP does to start with.

The 13 insert will save one hell of a lot of diesel. And doesn't stink as much. I hope that diesel is going into a furnace and not a torpedo heater inside that house.
 
fossil said:
Why not just call Englander Tech Support?
Cuz it's 1030 at night and I'm a little drunk. Besides, BrotherBart or Hiram Maxim probably know the answer and hopefully one of them will post it so I can continue being lazy.
 
kingquad said:
BrowningBAR said:
kingquad said:
BrowningBAR said:
kingquad said:
Would the Englander 30 fit with the shorter legs like Hiram Maxim has? I like that look. Bulldog stove.

I'm unfamiliar with this. Could you post a link?
I think he has NC 13 legs mounted on an NC 30.

Hiram Maxim NC-30 install

I've never posted a link before, so hopefully I didn't f--- this up.


BrotherBart would know what the height of the stove would be with the legs. I remember it not making a difference in height. Could be wrong.
That's with the NC 30 legs. I think it can be mounted on the NC 13 legs which are 3-4 inches shorter. I'm sure BB will chime in to clarify once he sees this.


Holy crap, I could fit a 30nc in the kitchen fireplace if that's the case.

Anyone on here have two 30NC stoves? Would I be the first? Do I get two shirts?
 
The 29 3/4" height is WITH the 6" legs on a 30. I know. One has sat in my fireplace since 2006 when I took those 9" legs that come with it off and replaced them to get it in a 30" high fireplace.

A 30 ain't gonna work.
 
jgilbert529 said:
what about a rear flue woodstove on a hearth pad? i have a large living room to work with.

Yes, that is an option. You need to come to terms with your budget, though. If $1000 is the limit, then we will suggest stoves, but you will have to find them used as oppose to new, which could take a while to find the right fit (All four of my stove purchases have been used).
 
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